Dungeon Master Forum

RogerS wrote:On the other side of the room opposite the gate there are two small holes in the wall.

Someday you will discover how to use those holes to make life with
Water Elementals and Rives a bit easier. (one of many 'more-ways-than-one'
techniques offered by Chaos Strikes Back.)

Those are CSBwin absolute level(x,y) locations. They are the
same as those used here:
http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/141

See:
http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/259


From the editor:
00(14,07)
02(29,14)
04(10,27)
07(26,28)

SNES version could be different.

Lots of interesting places remain to be seen. I don't think you have mentioned the Couatls, for example.

What fun! Level zero is exceedingly complex. Reading your journal is
like being there the first time.

You have a lot left to see. Keep us informed.

Christophe: I downloaded the archive. The sound behaves exactly as you describe.

Wow. There were about three or four spots where I said "How
did he do that?" I'll have to play it a few more times to see what
happened. Pretty clever. I was surprised to see you take the
'KU' exit from DDD. I didn't think that you could get through there
that fast.

It is interesting how differently people view the various levels
of Dungeon Master. Perhaps that is its secret to fame - having
something for everybody. It is amenable to speed runners, grinders,
careless exploration, careful planning, mapping, and even cheaters like
myself.

My memory tells me that Chaos can jump two squares in any of the
four cardinal directions no matter what is between (except fluxcages).

Re 'EE potion still in shooter': I generated a timer trace That is quite a recording of the "Collect All Items" challenge. Eleven and one-half hours of wall-clock time. 2,762,832 timers were set during play. But only two are of interest! Object 0586 stepped On pressure pad 05d9 07(07,19) ...

screenshot with the map editor That screenshot obviously shows a very different level 1. I recognized it before I saw the z-offset but it is quite different in detail. At any rate, the dungeon appears to have evolved very much over time and it would not be hard to believe that some small, inconsequ...

what do you mean by "The source code ignores items at many locations" Sorry. I should have explained more clearly. CSBwin allows you to play to an alternate goal. You need to kill every monster and return every item to the area around 5(14,25). To do this, you obviously need to visit almo...

there was still the last item (EE potion) in the shooter at 7(14,34) One possibility. The original Atari code deleted duplicate timer entries. The CSBuild designer can override this with : Menu/Edit/Global Info/Edit Database/Delete Duplicate Timer Messages If two Gigglers activated the shooter on t...

How many years (decades) have we thought we knew everything about Chaos Strikes Back? I promise to study your latest question. See you in a few days if I give up. Imagine scouring the dungeon for the fourth pair of speed boots, helm of RA or dragon shield only for them to be stuck there. I consider ...

Tool? Hmmmmm. Well, I used 'Debut Video Capture' to record the game from the screen/speakers. Then I used 'Handbrake' to compress the resulting 6 GigaByte Hufyuv/avi file to about 37 MegaByte h.265/MP4. Both are free, a definite plus for me. There are a dozen other tools that would do either of the ...

I have posted a new copy with sound. No idea what went wrong the first time.

http://dianneandpaul.net/CSBwin/Competi ... M26m15s.7z

I was wrong. An object can arrive at that location and be inaccessible. I think it is exactly as you say. The source code ignores items at many locations: 9,31,36,ANY, 7, 9,26,ANY, 7,14,34,ANY, 5,14,25,KEY, 5,15,25,KEY, 5,15,26,KEY, 5,15,27,KEY, 5,15,28,KEY, 5,16,24,KEY, 5,16,25,KEY, 5,16,26,KEY, 5,...

Antman wrote:when a giggler steps on 07 (14, 30)

Just to make sure I understand.....did you mean 7(12,30)?

I've given it some thought and studied the maps. I studied all the doors
that seem to need opening. But I give up for now.
Give us a week or so to cogitate before you provide any hints.

I played with a debugger using STEEM. That was decades ago and
I have no idea how I made it work.

No sound? That is curious but true.
I will try again.

I put it at:

http://dianneandpaul.net/CSBwin/Competi ... M26m15s.7z

I included a video. I found several places where I could not see
what happened. The video allowed me to slow down, back up, and
examine the game one frame at a time.

Indeed, you have played this game so long that the virtual time has overflowed. There is a 24-bit timer that counts one-sixth second intervals. That is 16,777,216 intervals or 2,796,202 seconds or 46,603 minutes or 776 hours or 32.4 days. In that time you have moved the party 23,679,874 times. Hmmmm...

I have already enjoyed it!

I'll get around to posting it on dianneandpaul.net later
today (Wednesday). Hopefully.

Wonderful. This opens many possibilities. A cooperative race to fusion. How much can the record times be improved? Complex strategies seem possible, especially in Chaos Strikes Back. A competition between two players. Tiggy versus Halk. What are the rules? I see there is a server and a client. Can t...

I always go out of my way to collect the 'Keys-of-B'. They allow me to
bypass the most difficult parts of the Ful Ya level.
They certainly are not difficult to obtain if you plan to visit all the options
available at the junction.

Christophe wrote: I have updated and added lots of technical content

I never cease to be amazed at the work you have done. Have you totally
given up your day job?

Dislike:
Level 9-The Zoom level.
Scorpions - Flying Eyes - Gigglers. All together just prior to
descent to the Clockwise maze. Can occasionally be difficult.

Like:
Hard to choose. But, unlike oh_brother, I rather like 7, The Arena, since
I figured it out.

drake_blue" wrote:virtual "cartridges" which have to come out under 16kb

Great project. Good luck.
But I am confused. Documentation for PICO-8 (https://www.lexaloffle.com/pico-8.php#m)
says cartridges are 32KB, not 16kb. What am I missing?

creatures have a tendency to go back to the spot where they started,

Creatures have no knowledge of where they originated.