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Items dropped or thrown when standing on an open movable wall disappear from the game.

Hi Lunever,

I can't reproduce this at all (either by creating a test dungeon with an open movable wall in it, or by using the save game file you sent me); I think something more complex must be going on than it just being as simple you describe!

Can you reproduce the bug with a simple test dungeon?

Alternatively, can you make an RTC recording of you throwing an item in DM / CSB and it dissapearing so I can watch it and check I'm doing exactly the same thing as you are?

I sent you another savegame with an exact description how to reproduce the bug. I'll send you a recording too.

SORRY the last example I wanted to send you with the nearest movable wall for my party was wrong, there I just laid something inside the next illusionary wall.
But I used a previous savegame now from the Junction of the Ways (Dain direction) and recorded several items when there are plainly disappearing.

I doublechecked the other saqvegame I accidentally sent you first - and it has such a bug too, just not the same one as the other ones. If I throw an item it will disappear, like by clicking a sword in the air (in the middle of the illusiory wall). If I give a dagger to a character and throw it by using the action icon it also disappears (you hear it hitting a wall but it is nowhere to be found when examining the other side of the illusionary wall or the illusionary wall tile itself. However, if I do it again then like by performing the throw action for the poison dart the character has drawn after throwing the dagger the dart behaves normally, i.e. not vanishing.

Now its getting weird and confusing - I retried this a couple of times with the savegame I thought I had handled wrongly - somtimes thrown items disappear, sometimes not. Sometimes dropped items disappear, sometimes not. Sometimes they reappear when I leave the tile and reenter it and sometimes not. I don't understand it - but I assure you I'm sober and have observed it now several times, taking care that I did not accidentally lose anything just on the illusionary wall adjacent.

Ahhhhh - i've finally managed to reproduce it.

The problem isn't "Items dropped or thrown when standing on an open movable wall disappear from the game.", it's when the party is standing on a closed movable wall.

Clearly a party can't walk into a closed movable wall, but what can happen is that a party can walk into an open one, and then, afterwards, triggers close it...

...when the item is thrown, it is actually inside a closed wall and the engine can't cope with that (yet ).

Aaaaaaah - and because the last example is a giggler-operated wall the bug isn't always occuring. Now I get it.

Now fixed for V0.46