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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by ElTango75 » 15-May-18 11:03

Zeniths Mirror is in the GEM-Level, you found that because it was not in a secret room. After I have reincarnated Zenith i used the "lead to secret room" spell from the Scroll Room in the Guild of Mages (there where the TechEye was). When Zenith uses this spell you will be transported to Zeniths secret laboratory.

As i remember, i got the coin map after playing the Pumpkin-Game as gift.

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Post by Leslie » 15-May-18 11:49

I never found the Pumpkin game :(
Using the Gor coins, you cen get interesting stuff on the bottom level of the dungeon (boots of speed for example), but I never explored everything that can be done with the coins. I also guess there are more coin slots on the bottom level than gor coins in the game.

Make sure to always(!), ever(!), under all circumstances(!) keep the gems from the gems level in your inventory, even after finishing this level.
It happened to me that I reached the pit madness and dropped the gems there. Then played a little bit with the teleport spell.
I teleported out of the pit madness, but not back into. So the only way back would have been through the gems level - for which I would have needed the gems, which were on the pit madness level... game over.
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Post by ElTango75 » 15-May-18 12:32

The Pumpkin-Game is easy to find.....The scroll is in the library, that explains what to do.....The Pumpkin is in the Clock-Tower.....and when you go to Lord Grey he changes the pumpkin to a lantern.....this lantern you have to bring to the 5 special alcoves between 4 o clock and 12 o clock.....and before you reach the 60 days elapsed time......use the shortest way to the alcoves !

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Post by Saumun » 15-May-18 13:39

Ah, I found Zenith but didn’t bother to resurrect him.

Leslie... I don’t understand why you still needed the gems after completing the level. Once completed, the path from start to finish should be clear on the gems level without needing them.

The gor coins can also provide an alternative route to the final treasure room, without going through the ‘vigor’ door (not much point - easier to just go through the door).
Also, I believe they lead to something else connected to mirrors. I didn’t find them all, so I didn’t reach it.
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Post by Leslie » 15-May-18 14:31

I don't remember exactly, I played this section a long time ago... but I know that I could not make it again through the gems section without the gems.
Maybe I should check again :)
I also heard rumors about mirrors on the bottom level but did not find them. But the items you can find there are worth the effort anyway.
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Post by ElTango75 » 16-May-18 14:39

Hi

I´m near the end - hopeful - from the GEM-Level, but have the following problem:
Got the Topic Key, got inside the Treasure Room, got the Master-Key, but can´t go out of the room to the Master-Door. Is there a hint ?

Second one is, that i can see two iron gates with red teleporters behind the flame......how could i open that doors ?

I killed the flame....

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Post by Saumun » 16-May-18 15:53

You can get the master key out by...
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going through the treasure room.
I think those doors are just the other side of the room where you get the winged key at the start. If they can be opened, I don’t know how.
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Post by ElTango75 » 18-May-18 08:43

Solved, but the beholder is very difficult to kill......i don´t know exactly but read everywhere from new spells, like "get back the magic from a monster".....or so ? I have all the teleporter spells, the bouncing fireball.....and so on.....

So now i have killed the "beholder" and went back to the royal shortcut.....one big circle riddle left.....yes....

I have also both maps: lower and upper and a GEM-Map ? Do i need this map later ?

And what i have also found out with the magic map......you remember the question tag in the treasure room in the ghost cellar......behind this is a very useful weapon the "blue steel"....it open when you have the levers in the control room in the correct position.....

12 treasure room are opened ! found the last flying chest in pit madness....one character is left.....junius chamber is left...and Valentins....and the nine world door.....there is a lot to do :-)

So, now i start with pit madness, but i know now.....it is not my favorite one......with jumping pits and so on....

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Post by Saumun » 18-May-18 11:06

Thanks for the info on the blue steele... I didn’t know that one.

Pit madness is a tough level. I took a long time to get going with it, but then was okay after the first couple of keys.

I can’t remember getting a gem map, so can’t help with that one.

I can’t remember how many treasure rooms there are, but it sounds like you’ve got them all so far. That leaves only the one in pit madness and the final treasure room.
The final one will only open when all the others have been opened.

The final great circle riddle is in pit madness. Did you read all the clue scrolls?
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Post by ElTango75 » 18-May-18 11:32

At the moment i play ToC more then 1 month....and the motivation is so high as at the beginning after finishing Bramuds Cave.....so i hope, after a holiday break to finish the game in the next month.

The GEM-Map shows something and i feel it could be something from pit madness,but not sure....i hope i will found it out.

So 12 rooms opened, 13 rooms are and the final treasure room.....so i am "in line".....

I read all the clue scrolls and had also a look on the picture behind the special door in the bottom level of ToC,where the door to the nine´s world is....
the picture shows a bread and something with hunger....and the bread is strikeout.....

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Post by ElTango75 » 18-May-18 20:17

Stock in Pit of Madness.....its really mad...

I found out how the Pit Madness runs....a little....got the first key, and found out 2 new spells by trying all combination.....

1. X/6/5/2 --> Fireball and Magic went back......
2. X/6/2/1 --> a helping object kills enemy.....

I found the last key in the 4th chest.....

I found Junius Chamber, got a second Junius GEM....do you know why a second one ?.....could it be if someone didn´t find Sir Richard in the clock tower ? Should I put the Junius GEM in the hole for the last treasure room M in Pit Madness ?

Do i have to collect the gold key´s, one for each side ?......

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Post by Saumun » 19-May-18 09:36

I think it’s so that you can still have a gem for the chamber if you don’t find Richard.

Yes, you need four keys.
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Post by ElTango75 » 19-May-18 18:47

Now i solved all 4 keys, and fit 3 keys in their lock, only the part "STEP - Pit changing, STEP - pit changing is left"....this part is on the Upper-Map on the left side.....

I also solved the last riddle from the great circle riddle with the hunger game....

Do you have a hint for me ? In three styles they exist, I have only two. put back which is missed, and I'll provide you with another clue.
I didn´t collect all clothes....but i also have 3 GEMS.....but what is mentioned and what i have to do ?

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Post by Saumun » 20-May-18 10:30

I’m not entirely sure which part you mean in pit madness, because it’s been a while since I did it. I do remember though that....
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some pits are fake. You can stand on them.
You can ignore that last riddle because you’ve already done it (mage guild vases). The riddles always give you a clue to another.

You’re almost there. You can get the firestaff now (though I found that it didn’t really help and I didn’t use it).
Have you got the last treasure room, or found sasuke?
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Post by ElTango75 » 20-May-18 15:42

OK, yes i remember its the hint for the vases in guild of mages.....

I also solved now the riddle with the step-pit changing, and found the way to the last key hole.....but first......

I went back and did these things:
1. I reincarnated Sasuke over the pit in the GEM Level
2. I reincarnated also Elektra because it was a scroll in the weather shrine near the stone table
3. I went out of the tower to the Guild of Thieves and went with Sasuke into Valentin´s Secret Chamber, then use the teleport to
4. Isabells Grave....and got the Bow of Flames
5. I went to the Graveyard...opened to graves, one with the next GOR-Coin, and one with the SECRET KEY
6. I went back to the library....opened the Secret Library, but can´t read one scroll......this scroll is unreadable.....
7. Now i have 14 GOR-Coin included the COIN-MAP

Next steps will come soon.......

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Post by Saumun » 20-May-18 16:43

Can’t the scrolls be read with the ‘read magic’ spell?
I can’t remember. I don’t remember them being important anyway.
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Post by ElTango75 » 20-May-18 16:59

So next steps......and also questions.....

8. Well of fortune......the moon key is needed.....i think later...
9. In the cellar of Alexis Start Room: Found biggest treasure room + GOR Coin, killed the green dragon.....heavy.....found the Mirror Room behind the coin-map level and also + 2 GOR Coins, went into the 4-special-key-room....there are so many weapons to get.....
10. Two doors are closed...the RA-door with the I, i tried to be invisible but no way......and the beholder room.....how to open ? I will kill them ! and last one.....the Nine Worlds will open at the end ? because i have to use the 4th key in the Pit Madness Level......

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Post by ElTango75 » 20-May-18 17:00

No, the scroll can´t be read with the "read magic" spell, but i try later some things.....

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Post by Saumun » 20-May-18 20:29

8. Yes, later
9. I didn’t find the mirrors, but didn’t have a coin map.
10. Pretty sure you use invisibility to get through. Don’t know why it didn’t work. Ignore the beholder room. It’s a trap. You can’t open it. You get teleported in if you pick up the firestaff without solving the great circle riddle.
Nine worlds is the last thing to do.
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Post by ElTango75 » 20-May-18 22:08

Hi

Thanks a lot for your very useful hints in the last 4 weeks, since i started playing ToC.....it helps me a lot.....the story behind is so great and the dungeon is really really good.....my favorite level is the clock tower....followed by the GEM-Level and the Pit Madness.....at the end its a real cool idea like in CSB to find the corbamites....

You don´t need all 20 GOR-Coins to reach the mirror-room at the end you need only 13 GOR-coins, but i had 18 GOR Coins so i used the coin-map. You find 4 speed boots for every character one, and also a floor which leeds to a wall with a switch, this switch opens the wall to the beholder room.....i tried to fight, because i wan´t to know what is behind.....but later......

I also get the Firestaff now, not using the spell, i used two potions and my characters where not heavy in carrying. So quick and run....

So now last mission...killing the red dragons and lord chaos......hopefully.....

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Post by ElTango75 » 21-May-18 20:54

This is my last post for a long time, but i will play it a second time, the game is so crazy !

At the end i needed:
1 day 7 hours 12min....
Mission 100'% completed, 40 riddles of 40
Killed the "4 Beholder" in the room....nothing there only a red gem
Killed all prisoners by loosing the ninja level, but it was cool !
Found 19 GOR-coins, the last one i don´t know where it is.
Finishing the game with two characters is easier then with four
I run through the whole dungeon and killed nearly all monsters a second time after the moon shines
I found a second money box, directly behind the knights on the way to the clock tower, after they were alive.

Open questions:
- The SAR-rune....where in the Lord Chaos Prison/Mage of Guild is it ? I got mine from Zeniths laboratory
- In the floor from Lord Chaos there is an alcove on the magic map, but don´t come there
- I didn´t found the Shame Sword
- I can´t kill Hieronimus Ghost in Hieronimus House
- Is there a place where the MON-rune is ? I bought it in the shop :-)
- I opened nearly all GOR-coin walls....some you don´t need to open

A BIG THANKS AT THE END TO Saumun, he helps me a lot during the game play....especially at the beginning to come in the game...later it was better.....Thanks, Thanks, Thanks

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Post by nexxus65 » 25-May-18 23:12

ElTango75 wrote:
21-May-18 20:54
This is my last post for a long time, but i will play it a second time, the game is so crazy !


Found 19 GOR-coins, the last one i don´t know where it is.
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you found the GOR coin when

you use the flask of water in the fire...in save place of marchand ?

you use after your hand and you win a GOR

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Post by jahmiann » 3-Jun-18 10:19

Hi

I strated Toc 4.1, and i am stuck :

1. The cursed bone is an addionnal quest but how ?
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i tried to put the bones in the altar of vi in the pirest concil but it didn"t work
2. I found a second ir key, i already open the ir funtain, does this key is useless ?

3. I finished mage, warrior, priest guilds, but i am unable to open thief guild
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I know a lockpick is needed to open the door, but i didn't find how to get it
4. i read about the VEN rune
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can be found in the Hieronimus's house cellar how ?
5. How can i get the ew rune ?

6. I read there is a quest linked with altar near the ruby door in the mage guild
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i tried to put a screamer on it nothing happen
7. Hieronimus's house, how to deal with the ghost ?
i have Hieronimus bones,and it's bloody daguer

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Post by Saumun » 3-Jun-18 10:36

1. You need to put them somewhere in the tower.

2. Useless. There are four, but you only need one.

3. Use something that the thieves sometimes drop when you kill them.

4. Use the cauldron. It’s on the other side of the cave connected to Hieronymus’ basement. You can enter via a grave.

5. It’s in the tower.

6. I don’t know about this one.

7. You can’t kill the ghost. Avoid it. Use a war cry to move it (doesn’t always work).
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Post by cocoetnono » 3-Jun-18 21:52

Hello everybody!
This is my second try in toc for 9 years...
I was stuck in the same place 9 years ago, the perfect symmetry level. There is many mirrors, one with a creature inside, a door i can't open and a mirror who seems to cast open door spell when you touch it.
When i kill the little flying demon, i brake some mirrors. I have try to make a perfect symmetry in this place, cleaning the breaking glass on the floor, take the scroll, and if a mirror is broken, i break the same on the other side. I close the curtains both side, and nothing happen...
I really don't know what to do...
Please help!
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Post by Saumun » 4-Jun-18 08:19

The mirrors don’t matter. You don’t have to clear the glass.
You just have to make the almost empty room the same as the room with the fire, pictures, and other stuff.
Note down the missing items, then find them and bring them to the room.
When the rooms are the same, the door willl open and the mirror portal to the next part will open too.
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Post by cocoetnono » 4-Jun-18 09:08

Thank you for help. But i don't understand, the almost empty room? Where is that room?
And the room with fire and pictures etc... where it is?
I have surely missed something.

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Post by Saumun » 4-Jun-18 09:44

After you put Alexei in the mirror at the start of the level, go through the first portal.
In this next room there is another portal in front of you that you cannot go through, and portals either side that you can.
These two both lead to the rooms I mentioned.
One contains items like a sun picture, a tapestry, and other things. The other room doesn’t.
You must make the almost empty room the same by getting the items and putting them in the symmetrical place in the other room.
I’d advise not to move anything, but if you do, there is a symmetry map somewhere (might be in the museum or library... I can’t remember).
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Post by cocoetnono » 4-Jun-18 09:53

Ok! I got it. I haven't place alexei in the mirror. Now i can continue. Many thanks to you!

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Post by cocoetnono » 4-Jun-18 10:41

And what about lit up the fire?
How can i do?

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