[Custom dungeon] Underverse [RTC] [Saumun]

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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I was impressed with the deth night and ants walking past each other in the hallway. Very good Saumun. If you know that then you understand how the AI that I'm fooling with works and I hope you join in on the project.

I'm not stuck, found the third
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garden and have potatoes
I am still going to starve two characters until I have 3 chests of food. Thanks for the clue at
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pay your way for passage
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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To be honest CS, i'm not sure which bit you mean (ant's and deth knights). Big dungeon... This might have been an accident.
Nice going on the
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Gems in Hazes
part. I thought this was pretty tough.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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It was tough, agreed. Took a bit to figure out the
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blue haze puzzle
I'll get a chance to play a bit today, not played in a couple days. Have a feeling this last bit is going to be really really really tough.

To accidently do it would be difficult, you'd have to clone a monster, change its bitmaps.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Do you think people who have designed a dungeon from scratch have an advantage when playing other people's dungeons?
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I'm not sure. Maybe there is an unconscious advantage in knowing certain possibilities. I say unconscious because i am personally not thinking about that when i'm playing.
Depending on the creator's likes and dislikes, more differing scenarios than you'd think could be conjured up... so i'm not sure how much it helps.
However, i do think (and this is just IMO) that creator's design them as much for themselves as others, and tend to go with the type of dungeon they like to play.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Indeed knowing the tricks that one can make with RTC gives an edge.
Another advantage is learning Saumun's tricks from Dark Reign to Dark Reign 2 then Chaos Mirror.
His tricks became more and more elaborate.
Entering Underverse without those pre requisites is like going at Chaos Strikes Back with no experience from Dungeon Master.
As FTL warned players, to go in CSB is for those adventurers that have at least faced Lord Chaos in DM.
Such a warning should be prior entering Underverse.
Underverse is tough, but doable when progressing through DR DR2 CM.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Played Chaos mirror a little but for the most part I had no idea about Saumun's gaming style. Difficult puzzles, testing logic with eye hand co-ordination. Knowing RTC does give an advantage.

Tricks with RTC, you got that right terkio. In the future some RTC dungeons will be quite different, a combination of methods using info screens and attacks.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Saumun's tricks are perfectly logical when you've gone through Dark Reign, Dark Reign 2 then Chaos Mirror, as well as his style and gameplay.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Just finished up playing for the day, got the
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ZO rune
Look forward to playing it again as soon as time allows. Having fun :D
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I appear to be riddled, don't understand the riddle
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wine cocktails, looking for a 3rd square key. I was hoping to get a drink of wine it had got me all excited
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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CS...
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Wine Cocktails = Anagram of anticlockwise.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Come on CS didn't you know that? :roll:
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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:lol: , maybe if I had a glass of wine.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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What am I suppose to find where the wine riddle is? I didn't find anything. Still have a pad clicking.

One more rune to find and I have no idea where it is, the
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ven rune
I was able to make it back to the rune room but am missing that last one. Where about is it?
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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CS...
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You get the Ven rune after completing the area you're in.
If you walk from the pad anticlockwise all the way around until you hit the pad again, two walls will open up with levers inside which open the central part. Don't take any steps back though, or it will reset.
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When you go around the central part, two more walls will open (again with levers), which opens the central square. The lever in the central square reveals a pad directly east (in the middle of where all the levers are).
This pad closes another two pits, allowing you to get to another red cross button (and by extension another key).
How many keys do you have from this area? You need
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four
to get the rune.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Hmm, I did find the first
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two levers right away since I always go left but the inner pad does not click, I used 2 keys so far, the next door has a piece of corn behind it. What is the armors special abilities? I'll check out the wine area once more
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I came back to the dungeon, I don't get that part with
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clicking plates to get to fight knights and finally get a solid key. CS asked about it on page 8. The answers didn't help me, I've been turning around either that pillar after making a plate click, or around the whole place like crazy, the third room won't open. I don't get the logic...
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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On the inner path you see another text that says "Or maybe not".
Go around here clockwise from the pad to reveal two more levers (near the first two).
Special Armour: Firstly it is much lighter than normal plate armour and has...
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Lyte - Faster recovery while awake.
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Sky - Higher resistance to poison.
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Eyes - Increased Anti-Magic.
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Lyf - Slows down hunger and thirst.
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There is also even better stuff in The Hive if you get into the Armoury and have at least one full set of special armour (including shield).
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I'm at the wine area, first levers are pulled, then the inner part where it says
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OR MAYBE NOT there is a pad that does not click, I am sure it did at first. Doesn't matter what direction I run around in the inner part, nothing happens, there are no other levers that appear.
What am I missing?

Managed to edit this message, I checked out the inner part, I got the riddle right but those levers are not appearing where the others are. I can see there is something in the wall. I think it is not resetting. The outer one resets but the inner one does not.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Igor...
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In the places outside the knight rooms, when you step on a pad go around clockwise until you hit that pad again. Only go around that particular section of wall... If you step away from it, the pad resets.
CS...
I'm gonna run a check now. Back soon!
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Indeed, thanks Saumun.
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I was trying the whole time to avoid a second step on the same pad because I misread TM's post.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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CS...

I can only apologise for this, but there is something wrong. You have not missed anything. At the moment i'm not sure what it is, but there is a certain square that seems to break the puzzle if you turn back. I need to delve deeper to find the problem.
Do you perhaps have a recent save game? If not, send me the one you'll have and i'll try to sort something out.

For now, i'll break the link to the download until it is sorted.

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For anyone playing v1.6 or earlier... In the southern wing, when you get to a message that says "Wine Cocktails"... After you pass a message that says "or maybe not", walk clockwise from the pad until you reach it again but DO NOT turn back.

Again... please accept my apologies.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Arrgh, spent so much time trying to open that wall up. It just so happens after I left this area and explored other spots, found the 6th amethyst, got through that horrible
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blue haze area
and have done some marking. If you could fix my save game that would be great. I'll send it to you.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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CS...
Don't know if i can fix the save game, but if you send me your most recent save i'll be able to get you back to that spot quickly... then resave it and send it back.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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I sent it to you 10 minutes ago, it is where the or maybe not riddle is
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Can you send me a save game previous to the one you sent? Before that problem happened.
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Yes, I have 8x40, 320 saves, it would be in the last 16 to 24 saves. I'll find it. Hang around for a bit until I find it.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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No problem. Doesn't matter too much how far back it is. I can get it done pretty quickly.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Sent it to you, you'll stand before it and have a glass of wine and two of you will be starving with 2 chests of food, and a dozen seeds. It was just before finding the garden again.
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Re: [RTC] New Dungeon: Underverse

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Sorted and sent back... Apologies for the inconvenience. Would have been quicker, but had to pop out for half an hour.
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