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Custom dungeon preservation project

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Can we create another sticky thread that contains a couple of downloadable zips?

Best would be to have a downloadable zip for each clone that contains the latest builds of all our known custom dungeons and a text file that lists the recommended engine build for each custom dungeon. This might make custom dungeons much more popular.
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Re: List of dungeons

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I don't think that's necessary or very manageable -- it would be out of date as soon as an update to a dungeon is made, and it's much easier for someone to simply download the latest SINGLE zip for the dungeon they are interested in. I think it's better to keep each dungeon up-to-date in its own thread, because the author can edit their own posts to do that -- they wouldn't be able to edit a global sticky, which means the admins would have to be on top of this all the time. Plus some dungeons are very large -- a big zip of all the customs for RTC would be well over 150MB for example.

Simply put, I think it's a lot of work for little gain ;-)
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Re: List of dungeons

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Yes, but different threads use different external download links, which from time to time get broken. It'd be good if we had some dungeon space that will stay stable.
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Re: List of dungeons

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I agree that having a global master upload space is a good idea. That's not what you asked for though ;-)

I think Christophe was going to implement uploads on the DME, not sure if that ever happened? Maybe it's time to have a proper CMS driving DM.COM rather than just forum software -- a page for every custom dungeon that can be kept up to date by the author and have links to the relevant forum thread. Or maybe I just like making things more complex than they need to be. It's been known! ;-)
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Re: List of dungeons

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I've already mentioned to Gambit I was goign to trawl through the custom dungeon forum and ensure things like links, and names of threads, were corrected to ensure it's more useable.

The zips you describe couldn't be done - anything we control means the individual designers can't update if they update their dungeon.

Currently, what I try to do is host any new dungeons (and will go back and host old dungeons when I get the chance) on this filespace, but put the download link in the first post along with the designer's other links. That will create a stable space.

This way, if they update their dungeon ,they can remove the out of date link until such time as one of us castches up.

Note that Christophe has already done that on the enclycopaedia too, and has many of the old dungeons hosted with him.


A key thing about taking each dungeon from the thread itself (which is what I will try to set up when I get to it) is that then questions, etc can be directed abotu the dungeon and feedback given. A sticked thread with all the dungeons for RTC would mean that all those dungeosn would probably get commented on in the one thread in a confusing mess.

Anyway, that's the thinking - I thin kthe list of dungeons serves a perfect purpose as is, and someone just needs to get the free time to go back and tidy up as needed.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Well, forget about the zip, yet having a space where you can download all the dungeons for a clone without browsing through lots of threads an external links would be a good thing.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Might make the name of each dungeon on the list the direct download to a reliable sight (DME or here)

I have a feeling I started doing that anyway, but the DM Encyclopaedia re-jig meant those links are bad now.
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Re: List of dungeons

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You can already upload custom dungeons on the DM Encyclopaedia (files up to 2 MB, you can upload several files if necessary or link to files stored elsewhere for very large files).
If anyone wants an account on the Encyclopaedia to maintain the custom dungeons list, you're welcome!
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Re: List of dungeons

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If I didn't miss any download link update, the following RTC custom dungeons (aside from TQ v0.02) hosted externally are not available anymore:

Sleepers version compatibility fix (unless the fix is already included in the current version?)
Vortex
A Nightmare Strikes Back
Crystalline Caverns demo
Chaos no Gakusyu

If anyone should still have these files, it would be a good thing to preserve them by hosting them here/on the Encyclopaedia.
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Re: List of dungeons

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I have found :

"A Nightmare Strikes Back " aka "New Dungeon"

Chaos no Gakusyu

RTC 15, 21 to 24, 26 to 30

Theron_s_Quest_for_RTC_v0.02.RTC

someone can tell me how to upload these files ?
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Re: List of dungeons

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Well, I guess Beo or Christophe or Zyx would upload them, if you contact them via pm or email.

Generally you can upload custom dungeons yourself on the Encyclopaedia, provided Christophe assigns you an account there.

Until it is properly unploaded I would ask you whether you can either temporarily upload them on some other public webspace or whether you can send them to me via Email (my name here at gmail dot com).

RTC 0.28, 0.29 and 0.31 to 0.49 are online anyway, but I'd like to get the other ones, since I currently try to make my machine run any custom dungeon and any savegame from any DM platform ever.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Thanks for sending them files, especially for TQ v0.02

If I have an Encyclopaedia account again I'll upload it to the custom dungeons there.

You also sent the file Daggg.rtc - I already had that one, it is listed above as "The Mind's Eys" and appears as LoThemindseye in the Dungeon list of RTC.
It is still online anyway, but thanks for everything nonetheless.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Zyx: I know it'd be a bit of work - but would you mind editing in into the list of the custom dungeons what engine version of csbwin and rtc each custom dungeon was made for?
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I'm completely out of order for this year, I barely sleep 4h a day. Maybe Sophia or Beo can do it, though it's a lot of work.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Yeah, I'm not undertakign that level of work, I want to get the general layout ok. Most of the csbwin dungeons (I'd hazard all of them) work under any engine, the newer the better.

The old dungeons where it's appropriate for RTC mention the engine needed. There are so very few dungeons under the old versions anyway - Reactor, Sleepers,

If you want to do the work, fine, I can add where appropriate the information, but I have a DM game to look after, and a few other general projects to do, aswell as just recovering from work each day. Sorting out the dungeons is somethign I want to do soon. Sorting out the dungeons to that thankless level of detail, especially given the small amout that actually need it, seems time and energy misplaced.

Note that you have - or should be able to get - a DM Encyclopaedia account. So you don't need this list to reflect that, if the Encyclopaedia links get the correct version of engine and dungeon as a package, then I can just adjust the dungeon list links to poitn to that.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Yes, I'm was already checking version information on the Encyclopaedia. However, for many dungeons there won't be a real version information.
The threads suggest a date, the date suggest a probable engine version. I'll edit into this post from time to time a version info, over time this should result in a suitable list. Starting now with RTC:

If there are several dates

Kid's Dungeon - RTC V0.24 - created 12. March 2003, updated 12. May 2003, Encyclopaedia thread 08. April 2007
Theron's Quest v0.01 - created 21. December 2006, updated 21. December 2006, Encyclopaedia thread 07. December 2008
Theron's Quest v0.02 - ?
Tower of Champion v3.3 - created 10. November 2009, updated 17. January 2010, Encyclopaedia thread 02. March 2010

... to be continued
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Re: List of dungeons

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Good luck with that! Do you have a lot of free time these days? ;-)
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Re: List of dungeons

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Not really. However, even if I want to do this, there's no need to rush it. I can add a couple of dungeons every now and then, and eventually compare the list to the release dates of RTC. A question I will not be able to solve (without several thousand hours of playtesting) is, what version earlier than v 0.49 but later than the version the dungeon was created with would still be compatible. It's rather a "if it crashes in V0.49 at some point, try v 0.xx instead.

Also, the dates will not always point to the right version - it may well be, that someone started a dungeon for example in v 0.34 and finished it in v 0.34, although during that process v0.35 was released and so on.
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Re: List of dungeons

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This is a list copied from the Encyclopaedia, I'll insert version information from each dungeons thread soon if available.

Information processed:

Custom dungeon list and release dates and update dates and thread dates from the Encyclopaedia.
Engine version info from each custom dungeon thread text from the Encyclopaedia.
When I found something I also added the engine version information to the dungeon version information on the Encyclopaedia.

Information only partially processed (in progress):

Version information from each thread text on the forum here.
Release dates of engine versions in order to guess a dungeon's engine version.

Currently I'm checking the forum threads and upload all dungeons of which I have processed the version information to my skydrive.
Should anyone not want his custom dungeon on my skydrive, please notify me.

List of custom dungeons (so far Encyclopaedia only)

Tower of Champions 3.3, RTC v0.49, created 10. Nov 2009, thread 10. Nov 2010, update 17. Jan 2010, enc. thread upload 02. Mar 2010

Hellgate Tavern v1.1, RTC v0.49, created 12. Jan 2010, thread 12. Jan 2010, update 16. Jan 2010, enc thread upload 26. Feb 2010

Bloody Hell v1.0, RTC v0.49, 17. Oct 2009, thread 17, Oct 2009, enc. thread upload 11. Nov 2009,

Black Gate v1.0, RTC v0.49, 2. Oc 2009, thread 08. Oct 2009, enc. thread upload 11. Nov 2009,

Dark Reign v0.4, RTC v0.49, created 16. Apr 2009, thread 16. Apr 2009, update 21. Apr 2009, enc. thread upload 25. Feb 2010

Mind's Eye v1.0, RTC v0.49, 16. July 2008, thread 16. July, enc. thread upload 06. December 2008

Xarostak 2 - The Country Site v2.0, RTC v0.49, 13. June 2008, thread 5. Sep 2008, enc. thread upload 9. December 2008

Gem of Ra v1.0, RTC v0.48, created 19. April 2008, thread 19. Apr 2008, update 11. May 2008, enc. thread upload 7. December 2008

Sukumvit's Labyrinth II v2.0d, RTC v0.48, created 6. Dec 2004, thread 14. Feb 2007, update 18. Apr 2008, enc. thread upload 7. Dec 2008

Angel's Egg v1.4, RTC v0.48, created 21. Apr 2006, thread 21. Apr 2006, update 29. Mar 2008, enc. thread upload 9. May 2008
(v1.3 for RTC v 0.43, v1.2 for RTC v0.38)

Dru Tan's StoreHouse, RTC v0.41, created 29. Dec 2007, thread 29. Dec 2007, update 6. Mar 2008, enc. thread upload 8. Dec 2008

Escape! v3.0, RTC v0.49, thread 26. May 2009, enc. thread upload 5. Mar 2010
Escape! v2.0, RTC v0.46, 21. Feb 2008, thread 21. Feb 2008, enc. thread upload 7. Dec 2008
Escape! v1.0, RTC v0.33, 7. Jan 2006, thread 7. Jan 2006, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Two Lovers, RTC v0.43, created 6. Dec 2006, thread 06. Dec 2006, update 9. April 2007, enc. thread upload 07. Dec 2008

Dark Stronghold of Xarostak v1.06, RTC 0.49, created 30. Oct 2006, update 14. Jan 2007, thread 14. Feb 2007, enc. thread upload 7. December 2008
(there was an earlier version for RTC 0.44)

ChaosNoGakusyum, RTC V0.45, thread 18. Apr 2007, enc. thread upload 3. Mar. 2010

Theron's Quest conversion v0.02, RTC v0.44. thread 29. Mar 2007, enc. thread update 2. Mar 2010
Theron's Quest conversion v0.01, RTC v0.44, 21. Dec 2006, thread 21. Dec 2006, enc. thread upload 7. Dec 2008

Dark Portal, RTC v0.43, 26. July 2006, thread 26. July 2006, enc.thread upload 6. Dec 2008

Arcane Study, RTC v0.33, created 20. Aug 2005, thread 20. Aug 2005, update 17. Jan 2006, enc.thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Surgical Strike v2.2, RTC v0.37, 28. Sep 2005, 28. Sep 2005, enc. thread upload 7. December 2008

Taurogs Lair, RTC v0.33, created 22. June 2005, thread 22. June 2005, update 18. Aug 2005, enc.thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Rookery, RTC v0.33 , created 19. June 2005, update 20. June 2005, thread 20. Jun 2005, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Vexirk Catacomb v0.2, RTC v0.33, thread 28. Mar 2005, 29. Mar 2005, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Sleepers v0.2, RTC v0.33, 11. Mar 2005, thread 11. Mar 2005, enc thread upload 7. Dec 2008

Deep Dungeon, RTC v0.32, 30. Jan 2005, thread 03. Feb 2005, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Unidane v0.1, RTC v0.27, 20. Jan 2004, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Kid's Dungeon, RTC v0.24, created 13. Mar 2003 , update 12. May 2003, thread 12. May 2003, enc. tread upload 8. Apr 2007

Reactor, RTC v0.23, 17. Oct 2002, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Chiefy-Dungeon, RTC v0.22, 25. Apr 2003, enc. thread upload 8. Apr 2007

Tower Of Chaos v3.2, CSBWin v?, created 15. March 2003, enc. thread upload 08. April 2008, update 29. May 2009
Conflux III BugFix 5 for v3.0, CSBWin v?, 28. March 2009, enc. thread upload 29. March 2009
Traps and Monsters v2.2, CSBWin v?, 20. September 2005, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Theron's Quest Conversion, CSBWin v?, created 28. July 2004, update 8. August 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Imprisoned Again v1.5a CSBWin v?, update 17. May 2004, created March 12 2002, upload 8. April 2007
Prison of Dragoth v1.4, CSBWin v9.6-15, created 15. February 2001, update 30. April 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Dungeon Master 1.5, CSBWin v?, 17. April 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Conflux II v0.j, CSBWin v9.6-4, 27. update March 2004, created 22. December 2003 , enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Mazarbul, CSBWin v?, 30. June 2003
1234 Challenge, CSBWin v?, created 14. June 2003, update 3. December 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007

Kid's Dungeon, CSBWin v9.5, created 13. Mar 2003 , update 12. May 2003, thread 12. May 2003, enc. tread upload 8. Apr 2007

3D2D1D v1.0, CSBWin, 21. April 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
3DMaze v1.0, CSBWin v?, 26. February 2003, enc. thread update 8. April 2007
Small Demo Dungeon, CSBWin v?, 9. September 2002, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Dungeon Master, CSBWin v?, 21. July 2002, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007

Dungeon of Doom 2, DM Java v?, 12. July 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Grags Dungeon, DM Java v?, 9. February 2005, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Order of Sar, DM Java v?, 27. January 2005, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Fallen Temple, DM Java v?. 11. August 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007

Dungeon Master... Again!, DMII-PC, 24. December 2002, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007

Theron's Quest Conversion, DM-PC, created 28. July 2004, update 8. August 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Imprisoned Again v1.5a DM-PC, created 12. March 2002, update 17. May 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Prison of Dragoth v1.3, DM-PC, created 15. February 2001, update 30. April 2004, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Core, DM-PC, 7. February 2004, enc. thread upload 7. December 2008
Mildew&Vinegar v1.15, DM-PC, created 16. November 2000 , update 19. June 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
1234 Challenge, DM-PC, created 14. June 2003, update 3. December 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Team Dungeon alpha, DM PC, 12. June 2003, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007
Kid's Dungeon, DM-PC v3.4, created 13. Mar 2003 , update 12. May 2003, thread 12. May 2003, enc. tread upload 8. Apr 2007
Black Flame, DM-PC, 28. March 2003, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Tomb of King Hissssa, DM-PC, 5. March 2003, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Prisoner, DM-PC, 26. January 2003, 3. January 2003, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Tomb of the Firestaff, DM-PC, created 19. August 2002, update 12. September 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Small Demo Dungeon, DM-PC, 9. September 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Diablo dungeon, DM-PC, 24. August 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Beastmaster, DM-PC, 5. August 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Conflux v1.11, DM-PC, created 25. October 2001, update 12. July 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Parlous Dungeon v1, DM-PC, 30. May 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Lost Scrolls v0.12, DM-PC, created 21. April 2001, update 15. April 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Dust&Blood, DM-PC, 13. April 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Halk Gonzo Barbarian (CSB), DM-PC, 12. January 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Venture Deeper in the Prison v0.90, DM-PC, 7. January 2002, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Ornate Test Dungeon, DM-PC, 7. December 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Chaos Strikes Back Prison, DM-PC, 25. October 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
DM-Alternate v1.051, DM-PC, 7. October 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
DM Blank Dungeon, DM-PC, 10. July 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Grave of King Millias v1.1, DM-PC, created 12. July 1999, update 10. July 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Enfers v0.1, DM-PC, 7. March 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Bennis Dungeon II v1.0, DM-PC 26. January 2001, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Bennis Dungeon I v1.0, DM-PC, 23. December 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Poison v1.7, DM-PC, 14. November 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Return of Chaos v1.00, DM-PC / DMute 1.3, Toni Ylisirniö, 27. August 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Kid Dungeon, DM-PC, 11. August 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Ian-Test 2, DM-PC, 8. July 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Dungeon Master 2 - Legend of Skullkeep, DM-PC / DMute 1.3, 27. December 1999, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
Conan and the Mountain of Tor Al'Kiir, DM-PC, 8. August 1999, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
First Test-Dungeon, DM-PC, 18. July 1999, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007
CSB!, DM-PC, 18. April 1999, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007

Dungeon Master... Again!, DMII Amiga, 24. December 2002, enc. thread upload 8. April 2007

Double-Hard Dungeon CSB, CSB Amiga, 9. July 2000, enc. tread upload 8. April 2007

Kid's Dungeon, DM Amiga, created 13. Mar 2003 , update 12. May 2003, thread 12. May 2003, enc. tread upload 8. Apr 2007
CSB Blank Dungeon, DM Amiga, 6. April 2003, enc.th thread upload 8. April 2007

EDIT: Is there a version information contained in the compiled dungeons and if so, is there an easy and quick way to access it (quicker than searching the date first, guess the version, and test if it shows up in that version but not in one version earlier)?
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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions v3.3

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Still I will ask every dungeon designer personally for source information. No has to release anything of course.

I'll go to all clones and all custom dungeons and all versions the coming days anyway.

I'll upload all files I have and are permitted to upload (I will upload compiled dungeons that are online anyway unless someone asks me not to, and I will upload source information only with the explicit permission of the author).

Also, I'll update dungeon lists and information and versions and release dates here and on the Encyclopaedia to the best of my knowledge. On the Encyclopaedia I can edit the custom dungeon threads. here I can at least add posts and edit those posts.
Incorportation in the dungeon list initial post would require Zyx or some other mod or admin, but I understand if there isn't enough time to do so.
Unfortunately I don't have enough html knowledge to properly dynamically link threads here to release date and version information on the Encyclopaedia, so static posts will have to do.
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I'm curious to understand why it seems so interesting to you to keep track of all versions and release dates, would you elaborate (maybe on another thread)?
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Re: List of dungeons

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Well, it's not that much to elaborate, so I'll reply here:

Sometimes in RTC, occasionally also in CSBWin, a custom dungeon created with an earlier editor/engine version will not work fully in the latest engine. Only rarely this means that it can't even be started, yet sometimes you can start playing, but eventually find out that certain complicated riddles do not work as intended in the latest engine - that means they can't be solved, thus can possibly create dead ends, or even cause crashes.

Since unfortunately most custom dungeon designers stick to a keep-my-secrets instead of an open source policy, usually the easier way - recompiling the dungeon (or just digging a tunnel past the non-functional riddle) cannot be utilized, so I'm trying to keep track of the proper version instead. Like, you play an old dungeon, of which the author hasn't been heard of in years, in RTC V0.49 and all goes well, fine, and if it causes problems, you just restart in the proper version - instead of restarting in V0.48, encountering the same problem again, restart in V0.47 ...

Essentially I'll see, what release information are there, ask the authors for exact information for the undocumented ones, and guess the engine from the release date for the rest. That should do as a workaround for most compiling problems.
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Re: List of dungeons

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It seems the link Black Gate points to Dark Abyss instead. I'm a bit confused about that.
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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions v3.3

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It'll probably weeks til I'm through with all of them, but in the end all small dungeons (<2MB) will be in an Encyclopaedia thread, all larger dungeons will be in a single public skydrive, and all sources that I get and that are nor for public upload will be safed here locally and secured on a CD.

EDIT: Split away a bit of this post back to the topic this post was moved from.
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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions v3.3

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If the idea is to back up all safely, and if the authors are amenable, then it would seem prudent to sent all the files not publically available to at least two other trusted admins for local storage.
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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions v3.3

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Yes - basically the files released for public will be uploaded publicly on at least 2 places, and safed locally by me and anyone who downloaded them, so it is very improbable that something gets lost.

For the restricted source files it might be good if in addition to a local CD copy I intend to create, there was another backup. Could be another admin who also safes locally, could be a password-restricted area of our space here. We should only take care that we don't spread so many copies among us, that an author gets the impression of having his files half-released without his consent.

A big advantage of having an additional backup beyond the author himself is not only that it will still be there should an author suffer a hd crash without a local backup (which actually did happen once if I remember correctly) - it will also allow to recompile dungeons if there are newer engine releases. Several very good dungeons are from authors who haven't been here anymore for ages. Okay, I admit that we'll very probably never see RTC V0.50, and CSBWin won't change much anymore either. Still, if there is some change in any other clone (I intend to gather backups for all clones, not just RTC), and such a change affects compatibility, it will be possible to fix it. Currently, if an author of a RTC V0.28 dungeon isn't around anymore, or is unwilling or doesn't have the time to update version glitches to V 0.49, that's the end of it since we don't have a recompiler for RTC.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Beo PMed me that he's given me editing privileges for this forum. Still, before editing anything here I'll first continue step by step to complete the version list and backup collection. When that is done, maybe we can check whether it makes sense to link some essential information and backup links I will have created into the initial post. I wouldn't want to interfere with Zyx and Sohpias moderating work, but maybe the information I'm currently gathering can contribute a little to it later on.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Technically, it's me that links to the latest dungeons and has done the recent work, so the only person whose toes you weould be stepping on would be mine!

Feel free to start a thread in the admin forum to co-ordinate anything or detail this so it catches all three of us, should we need to know.
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Re: List of dungeons

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So, I'm through with all RTC dungeons I could find for now.

Though I think I vaguely remember other dungeons from a long time ago - hadn't there been RTC dungeons by Ameena or Antman too?
Does anyone have any other dungeons not listed here?

I also added all RTC dungeons here to the Encyclopaedia.

I inserted version information in every custom dungeon upload thread at the Encyclopaedia to the best of my knowledge, so there isn't any need to continue to develop the list in the thread above in regard to RTC dungeons not listed there. The version information may not be correct in every single case. If some version recommended should turn out to cause trouble I recommend using one or two versions later and report the issue here. Shouldn't occur hopefully though.

The descriptions for newly created upload threads are minimal though.
If Christophe grants editing rights to the creators of the dungeons (and/or creates accounts for them if they don't already have one) the dungeon creators may add a couple of comments there.

I got several source files, and are waiting for some more, which I will upload as soon as I will have received them (as usual nonpublicly or publicly according to the wishes of the donator).


The question is how to continue.


This is per se a very time-consuming activity. The idea that as a result of asking around for files and information from now on I'll have to bump multiple threads to restore some pristine thread order isn't exactly encouraging either, so I hope we find a smarter solution there soon, for without an alternative I better not start having a go at the CSBWin custom dungeons. Maybe we can just sticky a couple of threads that are not supposed to be knocked down.
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Re: List of dungeons

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Not restore some 'pristine thread order' but don't bury the active new threads under a snow of old ones. That was all. If you really, really can't think of another way to do it and don't think PM is enough then please, go right ahead. Phpbb3 at least lets us merge redundant threads into the original ones, and I suppose that anyone wanting to comment on new dungeons will have visited the thread before so can hunt in their own records or in the forum.
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