How to deal with Lord Chaos

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Leslie
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How to deal with Lord Chaos

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You all know that at some time, Lord Chaos will show up while the party is on the way to the FulYa pit.
What is your way to deal with him? I normally try to lure him to some location a bit away from the place where I need to continue with the game, and the run quickly away from him. But is there a "correct" way to deal with him? Can he even be somehow "defeated", even if maybe just temporally? This is one of the few mysteries with CSB that have remained for me for the last years.
I even sometimes got cornered by Lord Chaos, which was then always a sure reload...
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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He cannot be defeated as per DM as there is no Firestaff in CSB. You should avoid him by running past and if you need him to move out of the way, use War Cry or the Horn of Fear. Considering he's the "boss" monster, he can actually be scared.
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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LOL... Lord Chaos can be scared away, but a simple screamer cannot. That is nice :)
Are there hackers out there who made themselves a firestaff available in CSB? Could that be used on Lord Chaos to defeat him?
My guess would be that fluxcage might work to hold him and fuse might work to teleport him away, but the complete defeat like in DM would most likely not be scripted in CSB. But that is just a guess.
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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CSB does not include the code to manage the firestaff and the DM-like end of the game, so the answer is no, even if you add a firestaff in the dungeon with a dungeon editor it would not work.
However, I suppose it would be possible to build a custom version of the game engine from my ReDMCSB source code adding back the missing DM code parts that were removed in CSB, and then make it. But that is sort of a new game then...
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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Once when I was playing CSB in RTC, i for some reason decided to stop in the secret tunnel right before the Ful Ya Pit and start dumping all the random crap out of my inventory. I dunno why I hadn't done this earlier, nor why I chose to do it when I was right around the corner from finishing the game, but anyway, I had this pile of stuff on the floor as I stepped out through the false wall and saw Lord Chaos right ahead of me. I backed up into the secret section again but he followed me, so I just panic-grabbed an item from my pile-of-crap (a Ful bomb, it turned out) and lobbed it at him. And...blew him up. Because apparently in the RTC version of CSB he's bugged and only has 1hp or something :D.
Would not recommend in the "proper" version of the game, though ;).
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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IIRC (and I may not), I think it's possible to telefrag Chaos if you have enough luck and patience. He can't be frozen which makes it more difficult and there's only a few teleporters available. But I think we tested this once, at least in CSBWin.
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Re: How to deal with Lord Chaos

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I have a vague recollection of someone saying that they managed to trap him at the other side of the Ful Ya pit. Presumably this could occur due to his ability to teleport but I don't think he would have any logical reason to use it in CSB as Fuse is not available.

Did I just make this up?

Edit: I didn't:
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