BOGUS ILLEGAL HERO ! (CSBwin)

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:34 pm

hello,

i have just started with CSBuild.

i have made a little test dungeon, but i have some strange problems :

- when i create a Champion portrait and play the game i have this message in the champion portrait : BOGUS ILLEGAL HERO with very low stats ?

- some items i created are displayed in the game with different name or different item ?
example : cross of neta changed in snake staff !
thanks for the help

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:39 pm

And also some problem with the portraits :

some heroes have a portrait with their face totally brown !

Post by **Ian Clark** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:40 pm

Simply putting a champion's portrait in a mirror is not enough. You need to create a floor text right in front of it, you will see the option to edit the champions stats when you edit the text, make it invisible.

as for your items appearing with different names, you might be using the DM graphics.dat, CSBuild normally gives you the names of CSB objects unless you change it in the options to display DM object names.

Post by **Ian Clark** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:41 pm

some heroes have a portrait with their face totally brown !

That happened to me too. I found that putting a scorpion on the level seems to fix it...

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:52 pm

Ian Clark wrote:Simply putting a champion's portrait in a mirror is not enough. You need to create a floor text right in front of it, you will see the option to edit the champions stats when you edit the text, make it invisible.

Thanks Ian,
i have made that, but it still happens !

edit : will the brown portraits be a sort of joke ?

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:57 pm

another strange thing : then a dragon send me a fire ball, i can avoid it if i remain at 3 or more tiles : ie the fireball vanishes after 3 tiles ?

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:05 pm

If you get really stuck you can do this:

1 - Limit yourself to one problem at a time.
2 - Send me your dungeon with a description of the problem.

More than likely, however, you will be able to figure it
out with advice from people like Ian Clark.

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:15 pm

Hello Paul,

i'm really enjoying it

thanks for that jewel !

i'm at the present moment having much pleasure to create a little dungeon

Post by **Gambit37** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:19 pm

For portraits to be displayed correctly, they need to be on a level that uses the "default" palette. Some creatures affect the palette and change the active colours, making the portraits look wrong.

You need to remove all occurences of 'paletted' creatures and replace them with 'non-paletted' creatures, or better still, start with a fresh level and don't load any creatures at all.

Paletted DM Creatures:
===================
Trolin
Worm
Scorpion
Pain Rait
Ruster
Demon
Dragon
Oitu
Wizard's Eye
Water Elemental
Couatl
Swamp Slime
Materialiser
Lord Grey
Lord Order

Non-paletted:
=================
Screamer
Rock-pile
Mummy
Skeleton
Wasp
Lord Chaos
Animated Armour
Ghost
Giggler
Vexirk

Note that in CSB some of these creatures are mapped to others, but you can normally work out which ones.

Post by **PaulH** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:29 pm

And the dragon/fireball problem?! I will keep mentioning this as it IS a problem!

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:39 pm

Gambit37 wrote:For portraits to be displayed correctly, they need to be on a level that uses the "default" palette. Some creatures affect the palette and change the active colours, making the portraits look wrong.

You need to remove all occurences of 'paletted' creatures and replace them with 'non-paletted' creatures, or better still, start with a fresh level and don't load any creatures at all.

Thanks Gambit,

i try your way and it works for the portraits.

but i have still the heroes with the name : BOGUS ILLEGAL HERO and with very low stats (17/1/17) ???

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:19 pm

Gambit,

i forgot to say that when the colour problem occurs on heroes portraits, it occurs on the extern portrait only.

the portrait on inventory is normal.

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:37 pm

I experienced the same problem with the colours in portraits, though mine were orange, not brown. It is perfectly normal that the portrait looks as it is intended in the inventory.

As for "Bogus, Illegal Hero", also check the original DM or CSB dungeon.dat to see how it is done. If you entered a floor text with "Edit Champion portrait" and made the text invisible, everything should be fine. If not, it could be that the stats are too high. I think I once tried a character with 999 each in Health, Stamina, and Mana for testing reasons, and I think I got Bogus as well. 900 in everything should work. For the stats like Strength, Dexterity and so on, don't put more than 255 there (200, for example, should work perfectly well).

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:00 pm

I have difficulty to use that part of CSBuild

But i'm sure it allows to do a lot of good things !

Post by **Ian Clark** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:19 pm

I've learned quite a lot of stuff about CSBuild (i.e. and/or gates) by looking at the original CSB and DM dungeons. That's probably the best way to go about it. Are you placing the text on the square directly in front of the mirror? Also, there is no need to touch any of the advanced options unless you are using an external portrait or the mirror has another function (i.e. in CSB if you select certain characters such as Plague you can't get the bonus characters).

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:23 pm

Thanks,

i'll follow that way : take a look into DM and CSB.

i'll certainly progress

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:31 pm

Ian Clark wrote: Are you placing the text on the square directly in front of the mirror? Also, there is no need to touch any of the advanced options unless you are using an external portrait or the mirror has another function (i.e. in CSB if you select certain characters such as Plague you can't get the bonus characters).

i don't touch any of the options, i just create a test in front of the mirror and click ok, but i still have this message

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:48 am

PaulH wrote:And the dragon/fireball problem?! I will keep mentioning this as it IS a problem!

I agree, Dragon fireballs seem to be very weak. I vividly remember getting killed in one hit in the Amiga and PC version, but they hardly do any damage now... Which is sad, as it makes Dragons a lot less terrifying.

Post by **Ian Clark** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:49 am

I agree, Dragon fireballs seem to be very weak.

It might have something to do with the multipliers. I am working on a dungeon and in it, I have a Demon and a Dragon that have brought a test party with 999 health each down to near-death. They even do 200+ damage when I have cast Firesheild a couple of times...

If you want to send me your dungeon, feel free (ian at raftersclub dot co dot uk), I will have a look and see what it is you are doing wrong. Chances are it is something really simple but not obvious.

Post by **Gambit37** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:30 pm

Bogus Illegal Hero happens when you create an invalid character in the 'Edit Text Pad' dialogue. However, I'm not sure what constitutes 'invalid' as when I tried it I sometimes got OK stats, and other times it created the bogus one. I never looked at it long enough to work out the problem.

Post by **PaulH** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:47 pm

The level multipliers are high, at 6 in places with Dragons. It has been a long running problem and has been apparent in DM and CSB. In this instance he dungeon is Black Flame, available form Pauls site or through the link in the Csutom Dungeons.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:12 pm

dungoen.master, you say you aren't touching any of the options? If you are placing a text pad and simply typing in a charatcer name, you will also get 'bogus illegal hero'

You need to click on the 'edit portrait' checkbox of the text pad and alter the stats, to levels as people have been suggesting. For example, putting up Elija's portrait doens't mean the charatcer will have Elija's stats by default stats - the text pad does everything in giving the charatcer his attributes, and you will need to edit it.

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:06 pm

OK, i'll try that !

i really want to make a dungeon

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:51 pm

Actually, I have a new theory it's the text name - it tries to fit it all into the name, not split it - you can split it as name/titel in the further editing dialogue though

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:05 pm

Mr.Stevens evidently programmed the "Bogus Illegal Hero" message, so could you perhaps shed some light on the matter Sir?

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:17 pm

#define MAXHP 999
#define MAXSTAMINA 9999
#define MAXMANA 900

Name or title too long. Illegal ASCII character.
Neither male nor female. Missing stat. Stat too high.

CSBuild pretty much takes care of these things. You should
not get a BOGUS if you build the text with CSBuild.

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:28 am

I tried changing the stats to the first recomended stats (I think it was by Trantor). This was the 900s and 250s I think it was. It was a week ago possibly since I fixed my dungeon, but I couldn't test it since then, so that's why I don't remember anything. It did work, so thank you. Finally I am able to test the part of my dungeon that I couldn't test earlier.