RTC Global Hall of Champions

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:35 pm

I've now updated the gHoC with all the completed games that have recently been sent to me. There are now sufficient entries to justify separate "Top 10" tables for the time and distance taken as well as overall score. The scores are all here.

Notable results so far are PaulHs completion of the DM dungeon in just 58 minutes, and Lunever taking 9 of the top 10 scores in DM.

The competiton for the CSB dungeon however is wide open, and no-one has yet attempted playing (or at least, have lived long enough to finish) at a high difficulty level where the scores obtainable are much larger...

Post by **Lunever** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:28 am

Thanks! Hm, maybe you should limit the gHoF to 1 entry per dungeon per player, or expand it to a top 20. I think it'd be better if there were more other players beside me shown in the Hall of Fame of DM.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 am

You're not that dominant, other people have just as many entries in other categories.

Do the tables reflect how many people actually have entered?

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:46 pm

Lunever wrote:Thanks! Hm, maybe you should limit the gHoF to 1 entry per dungeon per player, or expand it to a top 20.

A top 20, 50 or even 100 doesn't really solve the problem - you've played the dungeon so many times that you account for about 90% of all the entries...<fanning the flames>your scores aren't that dominant though - quantity over quality<steps well back> (*)

I considered limiting the entries in each table to 2 per player though, but didn't think there'd be much support for that - let me know if people think differently though.

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(*) Yes, I know you were testing the dungeons so weren't trying for a good score

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:47 pm

beowuuf wrote:Do the tables reflect how many people actually have entered?

No - they're just the top 10 in each category.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:11 pm

Ah, might be interesting to keep a note for each table of the number of entries /competitors aswell then : ) Top ten out of 100 is more impressive than the top 10 of 10!

And yeah, I don't see the point in limiting the entries either

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:53 pm

beowuuf wrote:might be interesting to keep a note for each table of the number of entries /competitors aswell then : ) Top ten out of 100 is more impressive than the top 10 of 10!

True, but the number of submitted dungeons is a pretty meaningless number - I mean, if you know you're not in the top 10, then you don't bother submitting it...

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:33 pm

Anyone completed DM-II yet?

Once I've got enough entries to justify a high-score table, I'll put one up...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:19 pm

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

But it's with a beta version so dunno if it is countable

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:41 pm

The beta version you had actually turned into the real one without any further changes - so yes, that does count; send me the file and I'll post up the table when I get a few more.

$eoub!!! · Post by **$eoub!!!** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 4:38 pm

Well, I competed RTC_DM2 twice but with exported characters

This challenge must be done with Torham Zed ?

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:40 pm

Scores can be submitted with any party (although if they're too strong for the dungeon, your score will be reduced to compensate - the way to get the maximum scores is to play with the original characters, on high difficulty settings).

Post by **Lunever** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:06 pm

The score is reduced to compensate? I thought that would be already be balanced by the monsters increasing in strength along with the party?

$eoub!!! · Post by **$eoub!!!** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:30 pm

George Gilbert wrote:the way to get the maximum scores is to play with the original characters, on high difficulty settings).

So, playing, for instance, with Alex, Hissssa, Halk and Boris provides better score than exporting CSB characters even if the exported % is equal or less than 99% ?

Also, playing with bad character (Syra, Zed) gives the sames bonus that playing with good character (Boris, Stamm) ?

Post by **Ameena** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:48 pm

When he said "original character", did he not mean the original DM2 characters? So, like, Torham, Bane, Equus, errm...whoever else there is...I always rename 'em so I can't remember most of their names

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beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:52 pm

The dungeon is designed for those charatcers, so if the designer has left in some crappy or too good characters, that is not for anyone else to judge! (Or do you really want to over-rule the designer of custom dungeons : ) )

$eoub!!! · Post by **$eoub!!!** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:01 pm

Oups, sorrry ! I was thinking about DM1

And, well, it's not possible to rename DM2 character in RTC_DM2, right ?

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:03 pm

No, no it is not

Poor Cletus never got to be affectionately called a slack-jawed yokel in RTC DM2

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:12 pm

$eoub!!! wrote:
George Gilbert wrote:the way to get the maximum scores is to play with the original characters, on high difficulty settings).
So, playing, for instance, with Alex, Hissssa, Halk and Boris provides better score than exporting CSB characters even if the exported % is equal or less than 99% ? :o

Sorry - poor explanation on my part.

The only things that are taken into account when scaling the score are the import %age and the difficulty setting in the config.txt file.

If you're importing characters though, usually they'll be trained up and so over 100% (which is all I meant by saying that playing with the original characters would be better). And by "original" I just meant those that were included in the mirrors with which ever dungeon you're trying to play rather than DM.

BTW the %age algorithm is such that *any* combination of characters from mirrors in the dungeon will give you a value of less than or equal to 100% when importing them into the same dungeon...

...and therefore the way to get the maximum scores is to play with the original characters, on high difficulty settings.

$eoub!!! · Post by **$eoub!!!** » Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:20 pm

Ok, got it !
Time to play with Tiggy Tamal alone in level 15 difficulty

(and in CSB ^^)

EDIT : Is my avatar not too big ?

Post by **Gambit37** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:00 am

Yes, it's too wide. Can you make it a max of 90pixels wide please?

andyboy_uk · Post by **andyboy_uk** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:26 pm

im right at the end of DM2, dont think I did it in record time. Is this with single character or you you just pick the best character from the save?

Also, this may be a thicko question, but how do you set difficulty level, it it a setting on a new version, on in the config?

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Post by **Lunever** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:31 pm

Difficulty increase can be set in the config.

Each character is evaluated separately for the high score, so if you have been playing well with a full party, you might get 4 entries in the global hall of champions.

Post by **Ameena** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:32 pm

I just checked - it's in the Config file, the section after the one where you can change they keys. You can set the difficulty level and the quantity of extra monsters (if any).

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:40 pm

I've just put up the latest batch of scores ( http://ragingmole.com/RTC/scores.html ); let me know when you complete any dungeons (especially DM-II) and I'll add them to the list.

Tonari · Post by **Tonari** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:59 am

In the following cases, does it have the qualification that enters gHoC?

A) Import the character created with editor.
B) EXTRA_MONSTERS is changed.

Moreover, if A is allowed, is the concealed status allowed to be changed?
The rise of the concealed status doesn't raise a difficult level now.
Therefore, I think that it is unfair to do it.
It is thought that "The concealed status should be all 100" should be made a rule until the reflection in a difficult level adjusts.

ian_scho · Post by **ian_scho** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:12 am

... Are there any 'playbacks' available from the top players? I'm only really interested in seeing up to 10 mins or so, just to see what their secret is. Strong wrists doesnt count, by the way.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:20 am

The playback option has only been going for a version or so, so I'm not sure if anyone has recorded themselves yet : (

I forget if you know CSBwin's workings well, but there are some competition games in that for DM and CSB that will let you see some tricks of the trade

ian_scho · Post by **ian_scho** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:30 pm

... Ah that's true - I vaguely recall someone completed CSBwin in 30 seconds while supping tea, or something like that.

Tonari · Post by **Tonari** » Fri Dec 08, 2006 5:49 am

OK. I send the dungeon module.
I made the character with the status adjusted to increase the score, and used it. but the concealed status is all 100.
And, I ended the dungeon that changed EXTRA_MONSTERS.

I do not care even if this character is not admitted to enter gHoC.
Still, it is thought that this is interesting data.