Dungeon Master Forum

I was well on my way to beating it, at just 25 mins to the scorpions, but sadly died. Ah well

Hmm, my email is doing something weird and neither of the Paul's can get it to work, so i will upload it to the miscelanious files forum. I hope this works because i will be leave for a few days tomorrow. What is a .mim anyway my attachment said .log, so thats just odd.

I think I have grabbed it back, at about 38 minutes! Paul to verify.

New record at 37min37.3s. I assume Paul Stevens will post it on his board, but if anybody wants the playfile please email me, with the subject 'Anthony vs PaulH Competition' as a header...

Antman's 40 minute Race to Fusion seems perfectly
legitimate. The dungeon came from my 9.1 release
which I believe contained a converted DM_PC dungeon.
So the result at dianneandpaul.net filename=MovieDM40
is the official record holder for a week.

I will be posting the new 38-minute record as
soon as I find out how the author wants to be identified
in the credits.

Paul Hayes' 38-minute race is now posted at

dianneandpaul.net

filename = MovieDM38

37 minutes 40.2 seconds
7954 Moves
Both numbers are records.

This is using a Resurrected character. As was Antman's.
(Let me know if I am wrong about this).

Paul Hayes has finished DM in 40 minutes, 31.7 seconds
in 8183 moves with a reincarnated Hawk.

The movie is named MovieDM40a.rar

at dianneandpaul.net

What was the exact time of Antman's try and his move number? Another question: what exactly counts as one move? any party step, turning as well or even other actions?

Regards, PitD

PITD: Ant's time was 40min 0.8 second, not that I take an interest in these things... He will most probably beat my record, I have seen he knows a lot of tricks. A party move is any movement or turn, hand action and execution and probably more. I Am sure Mr Stevens will give you the lowdown.

To anyone studying these times... have a go! It is much more about skill than speed, though obviously speed on the buttons helps. Taking the right character with the right tactics will help you a long way to getting a quick time. For example... take a look how you complete level five (coutl level). Where do you get the items for level six? And how about the cavern? A huge level. Is it worth getting the ful bombs for further on? And the scorpion level.... left or right in the Deceiver bit, and then choices afterwards as in the infinate loops? What do you do in the knight level? I have my own take on things as does Ant, and we both steal each others tricks, but maybe somebody knows something we both don't know? Good luck...

A move should be any keypress or mouse click.
If you are not sure, play for a while in size 1
and watch the counter. Let me know if you find
otherwise.

If you don't like the speed aspects and would just
like to try your skill......play in 'Glacial' mode with
'Player clock'....then you can use some unused key to
advance the clock and you can play the game as if
you had the reflexes of Superman. It is sorta fun.

I think I got a new record of 36mins 31 secs using Hawk reincarnated. Very lucky.

Maybe we should have a new record, efficiency, moves divided by time. This will take into account both speed and skill.

Or an ultimate DM/CSB archmastership, DM time plus CSB time. I think Antman maybe ahead of us all though

A new DM record with a single reincarnated charater.
Paul Hayes has done it in 36 monutes 30.5 seconds.
Get the movie from dianneandpaul.net, filename is
MovieDM36.rar.

Hi Paul
When i go to your site i cant see anything called MovieDM36.rar. My computer has only just been fixed, the powerbox went bung or something and i have just discovered Paul's latest work, very impressive. I will need to wathc it before i try beating it over and over again. Would it be alright if you can email it to me?
Thanks Antman

We better fix the web-site problem rather than try
to mail you the game.

When you go to dianneandpaul.net what do you see?
You should see a 'CSBwin' link. When you select the
CSBwin link, what do you see? You should see a list of
files. One of them should be MovieDM36.rar.

I fixed the problem, all i had to do was hit the refresh button once i got into the list of CSB files, sorry

Another new record, using Stamm, reincarnated, (ie zero starting levels) and a time of 34m and 46s.

It was an up and down game, I am finding new ways to shave a second here, shave a second there.

I suppose this shows the importance of mana and wizardry of the game...

The 34 minute 45 second record is posted at
dianneandpaul.net
File MovieDM3445.rar

I figured I better start putting the seconds into the name.

(Fourth try....the charm)

Here we go with a sub-34-minute record. 33 minutes and
58 seconds by Paul Hayes playing reincarnated STAMM.

dianneandpaul.net
MovieDM3358.rar

[Second attempt]

I set a new record using a ressurected character of 31 minutes and 45 seconds using Stamm. This shall be my last attempt, the mouse can't take any more!

(6th attempt)

The 31 minute 45 second movie is at dianneandpaul.net.
File MovieDM3145.rar.

So how much time can be saved by using four champions?

[Fifth attempt....too many]

Would it save any though? More characters to heal and rest, longer to get the BOS, and weaker characters at the end. Two people may shave off some time though I doubt it.

I think none, that makes the boots of speed useless, unless you have four pairs.

5th

Furthermore, using only one champion gives you the interesting possibility to dodge fireballs and other attack spells. ;)
And of course you are likely to never run out of food, as you need supplies for one instead of four.

I just spend hours reading this whole thing. I've been looking through the dmweb.free.fr site for a utility that will let me edit my players LUCK to maximum. dmute won't do it. Just want to play an otherwise normal FULL game from beginning to end, to see how mega-high luck changes the gameplay..

And it brings me here :)

Yes, using 1 char makes you immortal to all single-barrel projectiles. Just move his positional icon from left to right and they all wizz past you.

I often use the Mirror-Death bug (with gothmog) to grab the vorpal blade on level 6, and all the gold keys for level 2, in ghost-mode, before I even choose my champions :) (Vorpal blade so Hulk is a journeyman wizzard by the end of level 1)

I'm goign to install all of this and see the game won in 34 minutes. I find this so hard to believe!! It's so funny because the posts at the top of this forum talk about how hard it is (and impossible) to beat 1 hour :)

I want you all to know I share your obsession for this game. This world is long overdue for an official Windows Online Multiplayer version.

I'm a senior-level windows/network/protocol programmer specializing in C++... if anybody wants to team up for a fun project :) I'm also a GUI/ActiveX/ATL master to boot.
- Max

Max, you can try Paul's editor: CSBuild.
Current version is 788.
http://dianneandpaul.net/CSBwin

I just finished watching Paul Haye's 31 minute record and decided inflict some more attempts apon myself. I doubt i could actually beat it, but i might aswell see if i can get below 35 minutes at least, after playing alot of conflux 2, i'm sure i can move much faster than in my previous DM/CSB records. So now i can drive myself mad with some more attempts.

Guys, I would love to watch these movies, but I have absolutely no idea how to do it. I downloaded CSBWin and subsequently one of the movie archives — only to find that the archives already contain the correct version of CSBWin — but I can't figure out how to play back the log. Help is very much appreciated.

You might want to include a readme in the archives so other people don't run into this problem.

the movie needs to be called 'playfile.log' and be in the root directory with the correct csbwin version and dungeon.dat/graphics.dat, i believe (config.txt file is optional, right?)

then you go to the dungeon entrance, click on the 'misc' pull down menu and click 'playback' - the movie should run.