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cocoetnono wrote: ↑Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:41 pm And what about lit up the fire?
How can i do?

Think about, what do you need to make fire ? It helps you also to have light at the beginning

cool!
now i'm in the next part of symmetry level. the dark and the light. i've done a mirror map, it works very well, but when i put the silver coin in the wall, i go to the door with the big lever, and when i trigger it the light reappear, "there is new item at the shop". i see the treasure room. but the door with the lever is still closed. and i don't know what to do. Maybe killing the spider again for the silver coin help me? but it's a so hard fight...

I’m struggling to remember. I think you have to...

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use both the silver coins, but I’m not certain. You definitely have to put all six bombs into the picture to open the treasure room.

Tip:

Don´t pick up the silver coins (both), finish the level without it, so you don´t have to kill the spiders. Come later back to this part, when you have more power, then you can kill every spider with a LO FUL IR, thats enough for them.

After you put every silver coin in both parts of the level in the coin slot, you got the RA-Rune. I didn´t need the RA-Rune for spells......

thank for the tip, but finally i killed every spiders...
and get the ra rune.
now i'm in the maze of stairs, just finish the first part (and get the treasure room), and now i'm wandering in the second part... trying to find an exit.

done.
i'm in the gem level. don't know what to do... i'm a little confused.

Do you have the gems?

No, i have no gem. Except junius gem with richard, and two ore three blue and green gem in my money box.
I'm at the very beginning of this level. The black door opening pad is too fast for me, i don't k'ow how to do. And what about the winged key? And of course, the two small pads with the flying rune behind, i can't pass them.
maybe some hints are welcome...

You need the winged key to get the gems. You won’t be able to open that door without them. It will be clear how to open it when you have the gems.
I’m struggling to remember how to get the winged key. I think you have to throw something on a pad, but time it so the key gets teleported. I could be wrong though. It’s a while since I played it.

Yes, that´s correct, you have to time it with the teleporter, and then you get the Winged-Key !

The GEM-Level is crazy and really cool

thanks for help!
ok now i'm at the gem level treasure room. i've put a the turn right spinner just after the force field, then i throw the blue gem inside while i'm standing on the pad for opening the door. And i throw anything in the red spinner. It's ok, it goes on the blue pad in the trasure room, but the door won't open.... did i forget something?
And i have got a topaze key, but no doors... i don't know where to go, except succeed the treasure room.

I think the only way to get the key out is through the treasure room.
I’m trying to picture how it looks in my mind. I thought the blue pad was on the other side from the treasure room, but as far as I remember, you have to use one of the gems twice... so you use one, wait, then use other to set up a right turn, then throw the first gem into the right turn while stood on the floor plate, then throw an object.

At least I think so.

Ok, but the strange thing is that using only both gem and stood on the pad while throwing a object works fine. The object turn right on the first spinner, it pass the open door, then turn on the left with the second spinner and finnally fall on the blue pad.
But the door still closed and the force field stills there...
I'm focusing on what you say, using a gem twice, but i don't know how it could be intersting in this situation....
thank you for all the efforts you made trying to remenber a game you've played few years ago!

There is no force field blocking the treasure room door. Are you sure you’re at the correct door?
The door near the treasure chest picture is not the entrance to the treasure room.
If you have an object on the blue pad, the treasure room (near the fireball launcher) should be open.

There is no fireball launcher near the gem level treasure room., but three forces shield walls impossible to pass. I have found what to do: after doing the good gem combination, i throw an object on the blue pad and i heard a clisk (as i already said). In fact, now i can use the topaze key to open the door, and have the access to the treasure room.
And behind that door, there is a fire ball launcher seems not work, with a flame and a text like "a big fire cloud can summon a fire flame". I found what to do here with my two gems, found the key to the beholder, and kill him. Now i'm starting the pit madness level.
Any hint for what i didn't found in the gem level?
- the hidden character?
- why this fireball launcher with the text on the wall?
- the shield on the floor with to much fireball launcher everywhere?
- anything else?
Thank you!

Yes, that’s the fireball launcher I mentioned. It’s a few steps from the treasure room door. Which version are you playing?
Don’t know why the launcher doesn’t work. I used it to get the master key..... but if you direct the fireballs back at the launcher, it produces a flame elemental. When you kill this, you get a special necklace but I can’t remember what it’s called.
The hidden character is through the door near the power stone thing near the start of the level.
You can use the gems to get the shield, but I can’t remember which way.

i have directly fireball the launcher but no flame elemental...(maybe it's because my powerful rune is ee, and it's not enought for this riddle?)
I play the 3.3 version. (impossible to download the 4.0, page doesn't found error...).
And no way taking the shield, it's impossible.
Now i'm in the pit of madness level, very hard. I've reach the room full of food (my four leaf clover do it's sound), the room with the strolling pits. I've found only 1 gold key, and no grapple.
i continue wander this level...

I don’t think it works if you cast a fireball at it. I think you have to use the launcher, and direct the fireball stream back, using the gems.
I’ve definitely got the shield before, but it was a while ago and I can’t remember the method.
In my opinion, pit madness is the hardest level. I also had trouble with the second gold key, but got the third and fourth quite easily. If I remember where it is, I’ll let you know.
The room with the couatl (snake) picture is part of the great circle riddle (as your clover has highlighted).
You must....

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starve your party.

thank you, starving works well...
found 2 gold key, always not the grapple. every ways seems blocked, don't know where to go.

I don’t remember exactly where the other keys are, but I do remember that there are.....

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some fake pits that you can stand on. They’re on the upper floor.

That a great clue!
Ok, i'm going to try it...
Thank you again for still helping me!

I can’t remember if they’re in front of a key or a lock, but I think there are a few pits where you have to time your run through, then...

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there are fake ones.

I also think there is something beyond the pits that move randomly close to the...

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room where you starve.

No problem helping if I can.
You’re so close to the end, it would be a shame not to get there.

Also... I’ve sent you a message.

Thank you. My too i've sent you a pm.

ok now i have got the 4 keys!
what is the emrgence close all the exit?
and how to kill the 4 guardians they are too strong!

Impossible to kill 4 guardians. 2 is my maximum.
I'm sure there is a hint to beat them...

I had a test at the end of the game for the guardians....

Fill all bottles with a strong VI Potion, so that every (in my case 2 characters) characters has 8-10 potions.
Fight with the "Blue Steel" and the "Vorax".....that was my quest against the guardians.....

Or do you mean the 4 guardians in the cellar of the forrest, near the "Nines World door" ?
I also killed all 4, how ? Go to a small corner where the iron door is, then i used the "Magic Back Spell" and second i sent many "Fire Minions" into the room, they killed them for me

Thanks for help.
i don't have the blue steel, but i have the god thunder mace. and my max power rune is ee...
Yes it's the 4 dragons at the end of the pit level.
you're talking about a cellar in the forrest? where it is?

Easiest way for me.... Make Ku and Ros potions until your guys are near maximum strength and dexterity. You’ll kill them in just a few hits, even without the best weapons.
Strength is obvious, and high dexterity stats mean you’ll never miss and are harder to hit at close range.

If you don’t mind going back a bit, you can get the other power runes easily.

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The Pal rune is in a jar in the hall of champions... and the Mon rune can be bought in the clock tower shop.

cocoetnono,

El Tango is talking about the bottom level. Have you completed all the great circle riddles? If so, you can get the firestaff from there..... though I found that you don’t really need it.