[Custom dungeon] The Trail [RTC] [Saumun]

[hansblieb]

ok the tower is finished but what to do next? i found some items and a skeleton in the junkyard and the cave below..ans the mind controll
spell
i hear everywhere the sound of a water fontain the same bug as the alarm in return to skullkeep ?

[Saumun]

The constant running water sound has never happened to me when I’ve played it, but someone else mentioned that it happened.
The triggers that turn it off are either side of the water pipe room, so crossing them again may turn it off.
Does it not stop if you reload RTC?

As far as what to do next, the skull key can get you into a number of places.

[hansblieb]

ive read a lot about a temple but where is it ?? in part 2?? i came a lot further in ros and ku but not far enough. the goal is to find the ku and ros stones? and the skeletton key i opened all the locks after the skelettons i came in a place with 2 plates and force fields the first is timing the second i transported imedialtly back. and the ghosts? i cannot kill them with the original zo ew spell that spel mumbles . and i can not buy the vorpal blade the sound bug sometimes its away bot sometimes not

[Saumun]

You need the des rune to cast the spell to weaken non-material beings (it’s des ew).

Spoiler

The rune is connected to the guards at the tower. They go somewhere when they change shifts.

The temple of the blessed...

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... is in the lower caves.
In the southwest of the upper caves, you must activate the pads to open the inner square. Once at the inner square, you just step on the pads as quickly as possible to open a pit (there should have been a clue there, but it was never put in).
Once through the pit, you’ll eventually find the temple.

In Ku/Ros...

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... you do indeed have to find the two runes, but also need to get the ku and ros keys to lower the ladder to the chamber below. You also need a certain weapon.
It’s better to get the ku and ros runes as early as possible so that you can get strength and dexterity potions.

[hansblieb]

aha!! at the end of ros i found the night blade, and in the beginning i see a square in the wall where the rune can appears.. in ku i started the machine and see a hole in the wall i think to kill the animated armour who i cannot kill by weapons or poison bolts i try it very long ( i gained a lot of experience with it but he is still alive ) there is also a force field and behind a fakewall stairs that leads to nothing !

[hansblieb]

the ku potion are very handy indeed!! the shop is sold out

[hansblieb]

i am a very rich man now i sold all the swords and shields from the respawned skelletons

[hansblieb]

i found now in ku a very strange yellow bomb i read something about it that bomb but i wonder where to use it.. by the inlet it dont works...

[hansblieb]

ive got him!!!! i dont know exactly how i did it but i have the ku rune

[hansblieb]

in ros i did not came further then the nightblade

[Saumun]

The other part of ros is tricky at the start.
Just north of the entrance is a 3x3 room. There is...

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... a floor plate in the centre, but it is only active if you are facing away from it (if you open your map while in the room, you’ll see it as long as you’re not facing the centre).

Keep hold of the nightblade. It is essential to complete the whole of ku/ros.

[hansblieb]

thanks i came to the knife throwers now.. they dissapears and appears in a red field and cannot kill! they must have the third key somewhere .

[hansblieb]

in the temple i get the neta rune. is there nothing more to do ??

[Saumun]

It depends what else you have done in the temple. There are some secrets connected to it, but you have completed the essential part... getting the neta rune. Apart from the secrets, there is nothing left to do there.

You can’t kill the meazels in the red hazes. They’re just there to be avoided if possible. Keep checking your map with the ros mapping turned on.

Spoiler

There is a wall that keeps switching between real and fake. One of the three silver keys is in there.

[hansblieb]

the demon in the room down the stairs in ku/ros is unkillable? i tried several spells and weapons in the bellande house i read the scroll about the eyes and the fire. i pot the fire before the eyes they opens. and i pulled the fire back by both eyes they look to each other.. but i see no point to open the padlock or the 2 doors.. where is the first incantation spell for?? .

[Saumun]

If you’ve been in the hex demon’s lair, you should have a clue in the mail at your house about how to kill it.

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It is a creature of darkness and needs to be killed with a form of light.
You already have something linked to the night. Look for underground daylight to make it work.

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One further hint... When you kill it, examine the floor closely.

The bottom floor of Bellande House is tricky. You need to make the eyes on the tapestries meet at the same time.

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Use the braziers and get the guard to help you.

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The incantations are needed for the third floor in Bellande House. You need three of them.

[hansblieb]

i have sleepless night about that riddle in the house..
1] you must opened both eyes from close to open?
if i febleminded the guard he go to the eye to the left (by putting a brezier in the corner before the lock, if i do,nt do that he goes to the corner by the lock ) but if he stands before that eye ,the eye dont opened..(i stand before the other eye that opens)
2] i placed both braziers 1 step before both eyes when i put the brezier before the eye the eye opens.. i try to let do that the guard by the other brazier but he wont push the brazier forwards
3] with the brezier i opened both eyes when i stand in the hallway! put one brazier on the place the eyes looks to each other.. and then i pull the brazier in the hallway so the eyes see each other on the same time.. that works also not.

help!!!

[hansblieb]

another house i wonder to get in is the house with the broken lock and a locked door in the cave down but i have no key for it i think that key is in the bellande house?

[Saumun]

Spoiler

If you use both braziers by putting one in front of each eye to open them both, then use the mind control spell on the guard, he will stand next to the brazier in the southern room.

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If you then pull the brazier in the northern room out of the way of the tapestry, the guard will do likewise with the other brazier and the eyes will meet for a split second (make sure to pull the brazier, not push it. If you push it you’ll be stood in the path of fireballs).

You can ignore the old man’s house (the one with the broken lock) for now.

Spoiler

It can indeed be entered through the basement, but you will only get the key later. The key for it is not in Bellande House.

[hansblieb]

i found the second incarnation spell but i have no dain rune to cast it and the door on the second floor stays closed by the first incarnation spell.. i read something in the messagebox so i waited around midnight by the door and the altar in the cellar i missed some gears to open the doors where i found the keys from..

[hansblieb]

i have meseu in the party now so i m busy to train him a lot more. i read earlier here about the sun picture in the temple i have also problems to put it from the wall where ever i clicked! and visit the spike trap the second time the game crashes.

[Saumun]

The click box for the picture in the temple is quite small. Try clicking at the top middle.

You don’t need to revisit the spike trap.

There are three doors in the cellar.

Spoiler

One door already works because the gear is in place, but this door is hidden. Check your map to find another area in the cellar. A gear is hidden somewhere in this extra part. Check everything closely. The keys to the other two doors will only work with the gears in place.
To access the hidden door, there is a nearby lever that only appears when you pass the wall that it is on, but it disappears after a couple of seconds.

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One of the keys is hidden in another part of the cellar. Did you find a scroll that says “One step forward. Two steps back.”?
Check your map with the ros spell.

[hansblieb]

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o wait suddenly i see it.. on a wall.. very tricky!!!!!

[hansblieb]

i have a scroll with a strange riddle.. (up and down and seven or something. ) is this riddle related to the corbum i throw in the kettle?
to open the ra door??

[Saumun]

The scroll has nothing to do with the cauldron or the recipe.
It is solely to do with how to open the ra door. It is a pretty difficult riddle.
For the cauldron, you need to put all four recipe parts into it.

[Saumun]

One more thing...

Spoiler

You can bypass solving the riddle if you can remember a special way to open ra locks on the top floor of Chaos Strikes Back.

[hansblieb]

i played chaos strikes back many times but i cant remember something special with ra doors.. the end throw corbums in a fire.. i throw the corbum in the cauldron.. but thats not right .. and that letter puzzle is far to hard for me.

[Saumun]

Spoiler

Think about the firestaff in Dungeon Master. It needed something to ignite it. The very same object can be used on the ra locks in Chaos Strikes Back’s fulya level.

Spoiler

In The Trail you cannot cast this spell anywhere, except the level with the cauldron.

[hansblieb]

ok i have it i got the urn smashed get the ashes but i still missed a solid key

[Saumun]

Have you been below the cauldron yet?

Spoiler

You need to put all four parts of the recipe in the cauldron to weaken it.

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Also, you need four solid keys in total to reach the end of the keep. One is with a golem in ‘Alternate Reality’, two in the cauldron level, and one more in the caves below the cauldron.

Be sure to keep the ashes. You will need them.