[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Custom dungeons for RTC
Forum rules
Please read the Forum rules and policies before posting.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I was thinking flowers or a wreath for the grave, but could find nothing like that.
I saw magic mirrors mentioned in the thread, but if they are the
Spoiler
guild masters
mirrors, I already found them all so I can scratch that off the list.
Thanks for the Sar rune location...Can't believe I missed both!
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Just to add... I've probably misinterpreted something said in the thread about mirrors, and thought it was something I missed.
I
Spoiler
played the pipes
at the mirror in the stair maze, and completed the rest of the big circle riddle. I also found all the
Spoiler
guild masters mirrors
, so If there is nothing else connected to mirrors, then I was probably just mistaken by something somebody mentioned.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Could I please have a clue where to start at the oit of madness?
I tried pushing to obvious switch at the lower level, throwing things onto the pressure pads behind the pits and also dropping items into the pits on the higher levels to see if one of the pits leads to a further point. But none of that gave me an idea about where to go or what to do here.
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Leslie...
Going from memory here, but going down one of the pits to your right after you go up the stairs definitely gets you to a bit where you
Spoiler
step on blue (I think) pads to cross pits on the lower floor
.

I found pit madness difficult at the start, but easier as you get used to it.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Thanks Saumun, I was able to locate the correct pit and could venture forward into the pit of madness. I just found Sasuke and took a short brake to visit Valentin's room.
Some things I am still wondering about...
...how do I get the GOR rune? It is the last rune I am still missing. I
Spoiler
put all the books back in the library
as advised, but nothing happened.
...where is the chamber of Junius? I just have the gem that came with Richard.
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I sort of found the Gor rune by accident to be honest.
In keeping with the rest of the thread and not giving direct answers, you're very close to doing the right thing with the books. Try doing something similar to what you've done in putting all the books in the shelves.

You'll come across the entrance to Junius' chamber in pit madness, but there is a trick to getting inside.
Clue: It's not a door.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Thanks, now got the Gor rune :)
For the Junius chamber I am still looking.
I tried to cast the Vi Gor spell, but it does not seem to work. I guess it has to be cast on a specific place or item...?
And I sumbled across the firestaff, but the path is blocked by a teleporter that takes me to an empty room that used to have some beholders in it before. A scroll says I have to solve the circle riddle... which I did. But I did not solve the eight puzzles in the sequence of the circle. Maybe that was the mistake and I have to go without the firestaff.
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Yes, there is a specific place/thing in pit madness that gives access to Junius' chamber.
Something you can see, but cannot reach unless you do something specific.

On the other thing... Have you definitely completed all eight riddles for the big circle?
I only ask because I'm sure you can do them in any order. I'd go to each place again and repeat them to make sure.
If you've done them all and can't get the firestaff, then I assume it must be a bug.

That being said, I found that I didn't really need the firestaff and killed Chaos without it.
I may have missed something obvious, but It didn't seem to help.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Saumun wrote:Yes, there is a specific place/thing in pit madness that gives access to Junius
Spoiler
' chamber.
On the other thing... Have you definitely completed all eight riddles for the big circle?
The order in which I have done them:
1
Spoiler
put cursed bones into the fountain in the little garden

2
Spoiler
let the techeye gaze through the closed door

3
Spoiler
place four candles around the pentacle in the ghost cellar

4
Spoiler
play then elven pipes at the mirror in the stair maze

5
Spoiler
give a bota full of water to the hosr emblem in the fighter guild

6
Spoiler
place the missing pot outside of the mages guild

7
Spoiler
look like a king and take the royal shortcut

8
Spoiler
starve in the couatle chamber in the pit of madness

...no luck. firestaff still shielded.
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I'm pretty sure you don't have to do them in any particular order.

About number 2 on your list... I wasn't aware tbe techeye did anything. In the clock tower, I used the
Spoiler
wand with the rainbow colours to look through the door
.
Did you get a scroll after doing it?

I also had a little trouble with the
Spoiler
pots at the entrance to the mages guild
at first, as it seems there are a couple that do not work (I think I must have tried a cloned version by mistake).

By the way... Have you got into Isabel's tomb? If so, could you give me a subtle hint. Adamski mentioned about what you put on a grave, but I couldn't find anything appropriate.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Saumun wrote:I'm pretty sure you don't have to do them in any particular order.
About number 2 on your list... I wasn't aware tbe techeye did anything. In the clock tower, I used the
Spoiler
wand with the rainbow colours to look through the door
.
Did you get a scroll after doing it?
Yes, I did the same and got a scroll
Saumun wrote:I'm pretty sure you don't have to do them in any particular order.
By the way... Have you got into Isabel's tomb? If so, could you give me a subtle hint. Adamski mentioned about what you put on a grave, but I couldn't find anything appropriate.
Like many women, Isabel loves flowers :)
But you can't get inside the tomb. If you place the correct item, you just get another item and some words from Isabel as a reward.

I am now in the Junius chamber
Spoiler
after pressing the button, teleporting to the food shop and climbing up all the tower again
. Not sure that is the way it should be done, but at least it worked. :?:
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Hmm... I'm really not sure then. Maybe you have uncovered an unknown bug, but you can kill Chaos without the firestaff anyway.

Thanks for the tip. I assumed from Adamski's clue that it must be fowers, but i've never found any (apart from mana blossoms, which didn't work). I must simply have missed them.

... and I got in Junius' chamber the same way. Not sure if there is another way to do it.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

The flower is located in Valentin's secret chamber. The one that can only be opened by a Thieve's guild master.
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Aaaah... Thanks Leslie.
You have simultaneously helped me with something I'd forgotten about.
When playing, I'd found the chamber but didn't have a master.
I had resolved to go back when I did, but forgot about it.
Thanks again!
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Your are welcome :)
By the way, does anyone know how and where the Vi Gor spell is going to be used and what it's use?
I thought that spell was needed to open the VIGOR door at the bottom of the dungeon, but then found out the door is opened in a different way. But anyway, there's also the spell that does obviously nothing...
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I didn't think there was a vi gor spell. I could be wrong, but I think the name 'vigor' for the door is just referring to the
Spoiler
amount of gor coins to get around it... VI as in '6'
, but I may well be wrong about that and cannot remember how many I actually used.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Hi Adamski,
I am currently playing your dungeon and am enjoying it very much, however I am seriously stuck (playing version 49):
Spoiler
How do I get past the 'security system' door in mages guild. I assume ZO rune could help here, but I could not find any.

Also a potential bug:
Spoiler
In the priest's guild. I had the ghost and mummy kill all the golems, but Korahn's skeleton is still attacked when he enters the tile in front of the place, where they used to be.

Thanks
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

No rune needed there. The clue is the word...
Spoiler
security
.
Two doors. How would you ensure
Spoiler
the rooms either side are secure?
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

I'm stuck again :( How do I get past the flooded room with electricity in the sewers? I am missing fourth onyx key. Maybe I need a vacuum fuse to disable that charge, but I do not know how to get one.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Try using a more forceful method of disabling the generator.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Thanks, Saumun that worked very nice.
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Now I am stuck at gem level with "no master key around". I have obtained an Orialchon necklace, but that probably has nothing to do with this puzzle. Also I believe the treasure nearby is not obtainable in the version I have, because everytime a gem expires, it appears at my tile and turns immediately to another teleport. I always have to leave the level to regain the gems.

On a side note, if someone is still keeping track of the bugs... If you close the doors in mage guild uarded by an "I cannot let you pass" eye and then leave by guild hall teleport you cannot get back to that area.

Someone advise please.
User avatar
Adamski
On Master
Posts: 624
Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 7:58 am
Location: Italy

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Adamski »

Theo, you can't pass carrying the master key. Try to move it to the area where the master key lock is located. Maybe a gem could be helpful...
The treasure is not simple. Too much time has passed, anyway I remember you must use the gems 3 times in a specific sequence. A gem reappears in your hand only if you has at least one free hand. Otherwise it reappears on the floor and turns into a teleport.
And thanks for reporting the "bug". ToC has a design so complicated that I suspect there are many other dead ends.
Last edited by Adamski on Sat May 20, 2017 2:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I wasn't aware of the mage guild thing.

As far as I can remember on the gem level, you must open the treasure room to get the master key past that square that snatches it away. If there is another way, I didn't find it.

As far as the gems themselves go, you need to have both hands empty to avoid them spawning on the floor (can't remember if a particular gem always goes to the same hand, or if it's any empty one).
If it's still spawning on the floor when you have empty hands, then I don't know what is wrong.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

Oops... Must have been typing that at the same time Adamski was posting.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Thanks for the answers. I didn't realize I could leave my hands empty, although it is obvious. That changes everything.
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Wow! Completed in 18hrs. Great mod. Why do I have a suspicion that there is an another ending if you investigate more about the suspicious clues...
User avatar
Saumun
High Lord
Posts: 2238
Joined: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:03 am
Location: The Ether

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Saumun »

I'm not aware of one, but all the extra stuff makes for great replayability.
After completing it, I immediately wanted to find all the stuff that I missed.
“Grynix Ernum Quey Ki Skebow Rednim U Os Dey Wefna Enocarn Aquantana” - Anon
Leslie
Adept
Posts: 252
Joined: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:25 pm
Location: Germany

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by Leslie »

Hi everyone,

I am stuck fighting chaos. He does not seem to take damage from attacks. I managed to enable the ladder to the roof and remember that something should be done here with the sun orb. Also found the switch to reset the pits that open on the lower Chaos level. But I keep getting struck by lightnings and frozen by Chaos` magic. So I am pretty busy just surviving that I cannot investigate into anything :(
What are the bells that never ring? Enchanting smell, beautiful thing.
What are the lions that never roar? The wind blows their children far over the shore.
What are the gloves not worn by the hand? But worn by the foxes throughout the land.
THEO
Craftsman
Posts: 149
Joined: Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:10 am

Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

Post by THEO »

Small hint:
Spoiler
Read the scroll you found with the sun orb for clues.
Full answer:
Spoiler
The lightning must break the orb. Put it on the ground and than lure the lightning strike on it.
Post Reply