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Post by **cowsmanaut** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:17 am

I'm making a T-Shirt design based on an idea a friend came up with. Which is to have old famous people say things that are somewhat offensive and not in their nature, but in some way related to them.

The one I just put together has Sigmund Freud. and it says on the shirt "Sigmund says: 'Shut up Motherf@cker'" spelled exactly as you see there.

It's supposed to be an in joke about his ideas of boys and their mothers. Anyway.. would you find this deeply offends you? would you laugh? would you be indifferent?

and if you would like it.. would you even wear one? Or would there be a more suitable medium for this? Posters? coffee cups? mousepads?

Sabreman · Post by **Sabreman** » Sun May 20, 2007 10:44 am

I think it's funny

I wouldn't wear one personally, but that's because I don't wear clothes with slogans and the like on, but that doesn't mean to say I wouldn't chuckle if I saw someone in one.

Post by **Gambit37** » Sun May 20, 2007 12:36 pm

Sabreman matches my sentiments exactly.

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:17 pm

We don't say such things in private. Much less
out loud in public. We tend to form
instant opinions about those who do.

Des · Post by **Des** » Sun May 20, 2007 5:13 pm

Rude tee shirts, meh!

How about designing a "20 years of Dungeon Master" shirt instead? I reckon quite a few people on here would buy one off you... ...at least 10

Post by **linflas** » Sun May 20, 2007 6:41 pm

excellent idea(s), both of them

Post by **Sophia** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:14 pm

I don't understand the point of not writing out the word, if you're going to put such a thing on a shirt, anyway.

Nobody who knows what it means and is going to get offended by it will be any less offended by your weak attempts at self-censorship. The argument would be, and I agree, that if you really cared that much about good taste, you'd not even wear the shirt to begin with.

Kain · Post by **Kain** » Sun May 20, 2007 7:58 pm

Personally I wouldn't be offended or amused but as Stevens pointed out, I would form an opinion about someone who wore the shirt and it wouldn't be a good one :)

Post by **Gambit37** » Sun May 20, 2007 8:17 pm

I think the particular example Cows gives is an amusing play on words in so far as it's an observation on Freud's obsession with the male child's relationship with his mother. That's what I find funny. But I certainly wouldn't wear such a thing and anyone wearing this slogan (or indeed any other) would be highly unlikely to be part of my social circle...

I dislike "sloganed" clothing generally. I prefer a more understated, classic look and slogans generally make me think of unwashed students who think they are "right on" and have something to say.... when in reality they are probably incredibly dull and wouldn't dare say to someone's face what they brazenly wear on their chest.

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Sun May 20, 2007 9:55 pm

I was trying to find a way of directing his comment, while keeping the joke intact, a little more away from the viewer. Something that doesn't directly insult the viewer..

a suggestion was "Sigmund says you might be a MotherF****r"

any other suggestions?

Trantor · Post by **Trantor** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:13 pm

I think if you hadn't explained the joke to me, I wouldn't have got it, and explained jokes are bad jokes. So I don't find it funny now, but maybe I would have laughed if I had gotten the joke, I'm not sure. About good or bad taste, well, I don't have a problem with it; guess I saw too many such joke shirts already.

Kain · Post by **Kain** » Sun May 20, 2007 11:23 pm

"Mr. Freud, I did not have sexual relations with my mother!"

Tom Hatfield · Post by **Tom Hatfield** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:34 pm

Cut off the "Mr. Freud" and it would be a great political joke, but I still wouldn't buy one. I'm not into slogan or "joke" shirts either. Walking into Spencer Gifts makes me wonder who in their right mind would ever buy anything out of that store. (I go in because I have a friend who works there.)

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon May 21, 2007 7:53 pm

And sigmund would need to be holding a cigar too

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:16 am

he is holding one.. oh.. right I didn't post the painting..

as for the Tshirt for DM.. what should I make it of?

Des · Post by **Des** » Wed May 23, 2007 1:27 am

My suggestion....

Front design: A lively picture featuring lots of different DM monsters rather like Zyx's avatar. The text would be "Dungeon Master 1987-2007".

Back design: A picture of Lord Chaos with the text "Chaos lives on at dungeon-master.com"

Tom Hatfield · Post by **Tom Hatfield** » Wed May 23, 2007 6:08 am

Actually, I'd just slap the DM logo on the front, either full-size or where the pocket would go, and put a good creepy picture on the back with "1987 - 2007" at the bottom. Maybe have a variety of "monster" t-shirts.

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Wed May 23, 2007 8:10 am

I was thinking a selection of monster ones yes, with Dungeon-master.com on it. Maybe attract more fans to the site that way

I think many people still don't know we're all here chatting about DM so long after.

Though i don't know I can use the logo on a Tshirt.. that would infringe copy right for cash. Since I'll not be giving them all away for free. It'll be a fair bit of work to make them and then there is cost for making them too.

Des · Post by **Des** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:18 pm

If you made say, five different monsters (e.g. screamer, worm, couatl, oitu and dragon) I bet quite a few people here would buy them all

One could justify this by having shirts for different occasions. Whilst bumming around at the weekend, a lowly worm would be appropriate. At work, well if you're gonna be labelled a geek, might as well be an uber-geek with a big threatening dragon on your chest

Post by **Ameena** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:27 pm

Or do a shirt with a big pic of Mophus on the front and scare the crap out of anyone you approached...though of course you'd have to be careful not to look at yourself in a mirror whilst wearing it

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Post by **Gambit37** » Wed May 23, 2007 11:43 pm

God, I was hoping no one would suggest a mophus shirt! Now Cow's will rule the world! Bwaa ha hahaha ahabahhah aaarghhh!

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu May 24, 2007 1:31 pm

Actually, how about the Chaos Head image? I have an outline EPS of it and it would work great on a t-shirt, maybe with just 1987-2007 written underneath and the URL. It's a lot more subtle than the DM logo and was never trademarked as far as I know.

Post by **linflas** » Thu May 24, 2007 2:10 pm

same idea but i would put a screamer instead

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu May 24, 2007 5:06 pm

Ooh, chaos head is a cool idea!

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:27 am

I can do an updated version of him and not have to worry
i think.. perhaps similar to the chaos avatars I made a while ago?

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Fri May 25, 2007 12:38 am

By chaos head I think gambit thought about the face like he used to have as his avatar....wait a minute, conspiracy!

But yes, your chaos art was different enough to not infringe copyright I would hope!

Post by **Gambit37** » Fri May 25, 2007 8:52 am

Yeah, I mean the stylised demon face of Chaos shown in the dungeon that was also simplified to line art and used in the manual.

Or also with the pointy outline...

Mindstone · Post by **Mindstone** » Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:28 pm

Hehe, I'd definately buy and wear one, and I hate those cheesy 'hilariously rude' T-shirts.

But Im a sucker for all things Freudian. If you used an extremely serious looking Freud picture like this

http://www.bu.edu/mih/images/Freud.jpg

It'd probably make it even funnier. I admit its not exactly the pinnacle of wit but I'd still find it funny in a juvenile sort of way

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Mon Jun 11, 2007 1:52 am

that's the one I used.. I redid it at higher resolution though..

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