Dungeon Master Forum

haze/switch riddle in KU. Sometimes the mind works in strange ways. ^^

Not looking where you’re going can force a way.

There IS something more to the pauper. He must, in death, become the prince’s equal. There is something about the graves.

Got the bomb as you already know, and got the key to the pump. It's still not sucking in those fumes, but no need for a hint yet. Ah, well, just a thought: there's a reason for that shutter after all, let's try to create some low pressure first. Otherwise, I'll have to find some spot for that vacuum fuse.

thinking about pressure. As long as you pump enough into the room and prevent it escaping, you’re good to go.

Was a bit confused because I couldn't see anything happening and on top of that, it takes a while to work - which is realistic, so I'm OK with that. I guess you thought about some optical help yourself, probably there are restrictions due to the engine used. But what would have helped me there: If somehow either the cloud could be seen showing up in the room, or at least if the yellow cloud vanished faster in that right spot with the inlet open.

I feel that section got some logical problems: I threw a IA bomb squarely at the Knight and it just kept standing there grinning at me (well, couldn't see that because all that yellow smoke ). After your hint I tried running for some more bombs and threw them next to the open inlet, and I was fast enough to get more smoke there when there was still a remnant of the old cloud hanging there. So the room inside must have been pretty yellow by the time, didn't interest the Knight either.

To adress that first problem you maybe could have the Knight already trapped in the room with the door shut and only opening after its gone - I think hearing it behind there along with the scroll should be hint enough especially since there is the additional hint delivered by mail.

The second one could be solved by a time lapse before that bomb respawns, but that may cause other problems as people may not realize it does respawn...

Worked out the obvious parts some time ago when I was still stuck at the spider and ghost sections. Found the square key and thus the nightblade, but not the ROS rune. There is still a huge blank on the northeastern part of my map but I have no idea how to get there as I didn't see any more switches, fake walls or pits above. And while I consider the possibility that I can access it from below, I'll still need to find the rune to get that ladder down.

What is it with that laser lens effect? I placed that table top on the spot as I can see no effect of it except barring my way through at certain times of the day.
And that sun painting in NETA sections feels like there could be a secret to it but I didn't get it off the wall.

and turn north, you come to a 3x3 room with seemingly no exit but you can see on the map there are more places to go.
Have a look around this room and keep checking your map.

For the light beam, you don’t need it just yet but will soon. Consider the source of the beam and the name of a weapon you found.

There is something to that sun picture. Sometimes with large wall objects it depends where you click. Try grabbing it near the top.

The temple has another essential function. Consider the name of the temple and the message on a scroll you found with some bones.

covering the beam in the caves with the tabletop will ensure you can always pass the area where it’s most concentrated (in Ku), but when I said to consider the beam’s source and the weapon you have, I meant in Ku where the beam ends... so you’ll have to remove the tabletop at some point.

was the sun painting. I vaguely remember having similar problem in DM2, but no matter where I click, it won't come off. Is there a condition to be met? If possible, I'd rather solve that one before desecrating the temple.

... the one concerning the message with the bones, and the name of the temple.

the abbot stood squarely on the crossroads and that scroll told me to be ruthless. This time I got out with the bones first and am waiting for midnight to see if I got the right spot. Afterwards, I'll go back down to check.

Have to be a real arse first and thank those priests for all they did for me. The sun changes its colors after and then its no problem to get it off. What do I learn from that? Sometimes its best to wait before asking.

the abbot may have been attracted by the party presence and refused to move. I might have to look at putting in something to draw him away in future. The “ruthless” thing should be optional.
The red sun does lead to something, but it’s just a “nice to have” item and not essential to any progression.

Here's what I tried so far: "rising seven" -> replace the letters with another, seven positions apart in the alphabet, butno sense to be had there (randomly checked for some other combinations but found none that seemd to work so far either); "I vow to con you" -> changing vowels for consonants and vice versa ("Up and down") can't be it either, because in that text there's almost no vowels so after changing (and to which ones, exactly?), there'd be almost only vowels left, so no sense to be had that way, too.
So I'll try some other linear replacements for now (Cesarean, I believe, that kind of code is called) and ignore the text above.

I hope it’s not giving too much away to say that you should consider “up and down” and “vow to con” as parallel (vow to con is indeed referring to vowels and consonants).

”vow” refers to vowels and “con” to consonants, but NOT changing from one to the other. Connect them to “up and down”.

I tried exchanging the letters by a constant scale, and by using just the first line to check all 25 possible movements it doesn't seem I can get any readable text out of it, even if I consider that the vowels may have a different scale. (Not as much work as it may sound, because if you write it in a line, you just have to move one letter forward in each line. )
Also tried reading those snippets back to front. What I did not try was reading those line "Chinese style" (ie: up and down) because I have no idea what to do with the spaces in that case.

You move up through the alphabet for vowels and down for consonants throughout the phrase, but the number of letters you move depends on something there is seven of.

With that kind of code it shouldn't matter if you can figure out the exact number of steps by which to replace the original. I even blanked out the vowels, but try as I might, I see no line I can remotely read. Well, here it is, perhaps you can see what went wrong there (first line is the original from the scroll):

I gave the impression that you yourself move up for vowels and down for consonants, rather it has been moved up from a vowel and down from a consonant. Because of this, you cannot initially know which way... but in the first word, if you write out the letters moved up and then underneath the letters moved down, you'll get WSG and UQE under it. Choosing one from each possibility, you can pick out a word in this.
At first I considered this too difficult and was thinking of changing it, but then the guy who playtested it fo me (chaos-shaman) solved it, so I decided to leave it in (a sample size of one isn't great, but it's all I had to work from).
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q7sf6yfbk ... e.png/file

Actually, I may have almost stumbled across it in the beginning, when I still tried both directions similar because I didn't know which referred to what. Did that steps in my head though, so I had no two lines to choose from (and I'm not sure I would have tried that, but no way to tell now any more). So the rest should be quite doable, let's see how far I get with the aforementioned DM reference.

a trick you can use on the FulYa level of CSB, but in case a player had experienced neither, it is referred to as such in the DM/CSB Spell png file contained in the zip.

I got that urn, or to be precise: the ashes from inside and that he will rise in flames again. I guess that refers to the last room of the keep as it has those ominous holes in the wall, but I don't see what to do with those alcoves, as I can't seem to place anything into them. Tried opening them in all possible combinations, but the pressure plate won't activate by that.

I cleaned the homeworld and the caves below from some new monsters, so I can move freely again. But the final incantation doesn't seem to work yet either. I tried it on that pentagram, by itself and with the other three in a row, but could see no effect. I guess that's something for later.

I believe the critical spot now is that keep room.

has a key that is shot by stepping on the pad in the corner. That key will be turned left, right, or go straight through the haze depending on it’s colour. You must catch the key.

The final incantation does indeed need to be cast in a pentagram, but not one that you’ve seen. Think about a place in plain sight that you have not been able to enter. You’ll need the key.

I’m getting a little ahead here, but when you meet the clerk of the dock, I’d advise making a save that you don’t overwrite.

I saved before entering the docks and will have to wait anyway since I have to sell my black market things and probably most of the other stuff as well since I won't be coming back, I guess.

Found 27 secrets, so I missed 3, one of them being the RaSar Plate. What the other two may be, I have no clue except perhaps for the Fire Shield, if it exists.

as predicted, the RaSar Plate, then the Phantom and the Sun Staff.