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Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:19 pm
by Adamski
Igor, it is a RTC "bug". The relay starts when you click on
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Magnus with an "OBJECT_ON_MOUSE" (the medicine).
I can't modify the size of mouse pointer affected click area in any way.

I guess you mean
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'treants' when you write 'tree colossuses'.
No problem with them, they have a different attack:
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ATTACK_METHOD_MONSTER_6_PUSH
This method only moves the tile in front of them.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:51 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
I made some good progress. I really like your dungeon, many great ideas once again, and an impressive production.
I don't understand what I'm supposed to do in the
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bubble room... What should I aim for? Fastness?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:12 pm
by Adamski
Thanks Igor :)
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Be fast. You can easily reach the room using a trick (the usual in this little dungeon). Otherwise it is quite hard and frustrating.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:46 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
Thanks for the tip. Much easier indeed.
The fight right after that seems too easy to me:
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No need for any skill, standing motionless casting fireballs is enough to win without getting harmed...?
In comparison, the snail fight was extremely hard
All my characters were starving in this dungeon... I only survived thanks to the
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meditation point

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 11:51 pm
by Adamski
UNDERWORLD DREAMS 1.2

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FEATURES:
52 levels
12 different main locations
2 bonus locations
5 side quests
66 secrets
an improved interface
more than 70 new creatures
more than 100 new items
10 new spells
and much more...

CHANGES IN 1.2 VERSION:
added ambient sounds in forests, dungeons and caves for a better atmosphere
changed the main theme
fixed the slow downs caused by the sleep bolts (great tree)
fixed some locks that didn't disable (sleepy hollow, raimbow mines)
fixed some riddles that didn't worked properly (amber tower, great tree)
put back strenght, dexterity and wisdom potions, but with a limitation
changed the meditation points (now more balanced)
text corrections
minor graphic changes

LINKS:
RTC 0.49 + game file ver 1.2 http://www.mediafire.com/file/frwfxczv8 ... C_0.49.rar
Only game file ver 1.2 http://www.mediafire.com/file/eizb3wr68 ... ms_1.2.RTC

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.1

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:06 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
Adamski wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 9:12 pm Chaos,
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did you visit Helga again?
I can't remember where the hag was. I am looking right now. Couldn't play for the last couple of days, it's hard to resist but my butt :) had a boil, a carbuncle, an infected follicle. Damn smarts!

I tried giving the
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medicine to magnus who I think is the bear
just now, it didn't work, I'll try it once more.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 5:10 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
I found the hag Helga, nothing happened until I killed her, that was a mistake, what needs to be done here?
I have the medicine on the mouse and click on the right side of
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the bear but nothing happens.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:12 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
Medicine given, should have known it. Off to see Helga

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:30 pm
by Adamski
Chaos, that's a RTC problem. The pointer click area doesn't coincide with the whole Magnus' body.

Igor, when I tested the game I found
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King Frog
quite hard because of
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his tongue attack and the annoying sleep bubbles.
I tried to balance all the bosses with the hypothetical party level the player should have at each point of the game. Maybe you were much stronger than me.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:53 pm
by jahmiann
Hi adamski

i forwarded a few (cause no free time), i strating the dream palace.
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I read two books to gilliam (the dark knigh and the fantom parad).
Now i have a enchanted flut, but i can't open other door in the dream palace.
Do i need to go in another place and back to palace later ?
How to get other magic book hidden by the imps in the dream palace ?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:02 pm
by Adamski
Hi Jahmiann,
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you read two books, but I'm sure you have a third you haven't read yet
Did you explore the area near
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the phantom parade?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:04 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
Adamski:
About the fight against
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King Frog, all my characters were strong enough wizards to cast Mon fireballs.
I'm blocked in the
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castle in the "clouds". Not far from the entrance. I made my way to a second barrel at the level of the mirror, but don't understand what to do there. I guess the barrel is for going back to the stairs, I also guess there's something else than the barrel? An hidden switch maybe?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 11:29 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
Nevermind, found it.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 3:58 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
I'm dealing with Dream Palace, no other doors will open in the enchanted forest that I can find. It appears that Dream Palace has to be completed first. I was searching for a way into Trolamport. Thoroughly impressed with this dungeon.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:26 pm
by Adamski
Chaos, Trolamport is one of the first locations to explore, but before that you must visit the library.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:48 pm
by Chaos-Shaman
I really like that it is linear, not all of it, but enough.

At the
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gypsy shop, do all the items need to be purchased? want to by that axe and keep it
That shop keeper takes more coin than he should if paying by chest or bag, he's a thief.

Can the weapons be recharged in someway?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:19 am
by Igor Poulpupov
I finished the castle I was in, but still have a riddle left. The "omit two" riddle.
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What should I omit? Levers (I think I tried all possible combinations with 2 levers up, hating that room so much now...)? Pads?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:33 am
by Adamski
Chaos, you have to buy 2 items to complete the game. It is easy to understand what they are.

This part of the game is quite linear, next part will be less linear.

Igor, the correct answer is the first you wrote.
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What about the giant ettin? Too strong or too weak?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:22 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
The fight was interesting. Not too hard, not too easy.

I still don't get that riddle... I gave up.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 9:30 pm
by Adamski
Igor, it's much easier you can think:
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4 levers down
2 levers up (of your choice)
check the alcove where you found the message

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:18 pm
by Igor Poulpupov
I'm starving again. Slowly dying while fighting around, doing pretty much no damage at all. I guess I'll have to reload from a good while back...
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How does the monsters regeneration work in the forest? Is it just based on a timer or are there triggers that would allow me to get more food faster?
Maybe I missed something, but the forest seems to be the only source of food (0 food in the dungeons insides)?
To be honest, I'd prefer being able to concentrate on the story and new places rather than having to look for and to hunt the same creatures over and over again in order to not die like this...

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:00 am
by Adamski
Igor, there are many ways to get food:
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  • by killing the little blue lizards in the sleep forest and in the flying island
  • by killing the big lizards in the enchanted forest
  • by killing red screamers and pumpkin monsters
  • you can also buy food in the gypsy shop
Little and big lizards regenerate in a specific location every time one of them is killed:
  • little lizards in the deep forest and in the east side of the marble castle
  • big lizards around the bottomless pit area or near Trolamport
  • pumpkin monster in the underground of the abandoned house, opening a door

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 1:59 am
by Igor Poulpupov
Ok, thanks for the details. I just spent about 40 minutes going to these locations, I'm finally at least half full with any character...
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I don't have access to the abandoned house, I guess that's normal. I'm doing the eastern wing of the palace now.
How many of those lizards are in game simultaneously? 2, maybe? I feel like there are moments with no big lizard at all.
The one in the deep forest is too far from the action for my taste, I hope the respawns can't stack on just one location...

It's probably better to wait and see what the other players will think about it, but I think some more food or monsters carrying food would make the game better.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:26 am
by Adamski
The mechanism is quite complex.
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Whe you kill a giant lizard, a relay activates the lizard generator in an unreachable little area of the game. In that area there are two teleports with the probability set to 20%. One of them points near the bottomless pit, the other near Trolamport. The giant lizard walks until one of the teleports works. When you arrive in the enchanted forest you find two giant lizards. This means there couldn't be more than two lizards at the same time and their respawn is random in time and space.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 12:36 pm
by jahmiann
Hi adamski

I find some time to continue playing. Another problem is the water, the only fountain known is near the entrance of the old tree. It should be good to have another fountain in the enchanted forest ... Are i missed something ?

For the boot house
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- How to pass bubble room ? I suppose when walking on the plate the door is opening for a small time and you need to reach it quickly.
- I found teck mass, boot and legs,does all teck set is in the boot house ? May i a have glue how to get missing teck set ?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 2:24 pm
by Adamski
Hi jahmiann

There are more than 10 fountains in the whole game, 3 are in the enchanted forest. Look next to the great tree exit.

Boot house:
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- Use the item that helped you the most in this little dungeon.
- The only piece I haven't put is the tech shield. Spell reflector is too strong.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:02 pm
by Decompositor
I didn't have much time to play, so I am still inside the Amber Tower. I am now on the level with the "shy staircase".
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Everytime I move one step forward the staircase retracts one step. I think one should somehow "block" its way on the back? But so far this hasn't succeeded, the staircase seems to keep moving and/or doesn't even appear even if I block the level completely with amber blocks. Or should I try to somehow "attract" the staircase? Any thoughts?

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:08 pm
by jahmiann
decompositor
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- can you reveal rune ?
- if you walk like a cat the staircase will be "shyless"

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:19 pm
by Adamski
Good hint, Jahmian 8)

Decompositor,
you are at 5-6% of the game. I suggest you to download and play the version 1.2. It's much better in terms of athmosphere and balance. I removed many bugs too.

Re: [RTC] Underworld Dreams 1.2

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 5:23 pm
by jahmiann
ok i can find food and water easily now. Thx

I finished the boot house but found a death end.
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- after killed the frog if you down back by the pit you will stuck because grapple diseappered.
maybe close the pit or summon a wall in front of the pit when the fight is starting will solve it.
By the way i didn't find the last tech piece "the torso", i there a way to come back to the boot house ?
The door with dr. adamski closed, i there a way to reopen it ? Dr adamsky gave me a pipe but if i cannot reach it what its purpose ?
But now, i finished the last dream and don't have new one, what is the next step ?
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Gilliam is still asleep, i entered the "sivis dungeon" but i am stuck, if i clearly understand the challenge is to find all pearls then use it in the pearl room.