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sure i have, but dont find it yet
im totally stuck now at this place.
found the bro rune, dont have the right key for the sewer control to flood ...
this ****ing ghost and map make me very annoyed cause i cant handle things like this

What's the problem? The map makes you annoyed? What do you mean?

I am stuck. I now have the spellbook and I have the runes LO, EE, KATH, FUL, YA and VEN. I am critically wounded and need VI. I guess it's either in the well or the fountain. I got into the well garden, but can't seem to do anything there? I can't get into the fountain either.

I solved Azel's bones and got into the priest guild. Found some notes about potions -- but I don't have a flask.

I have visted the weather shrine and the garden of delight, but can't do anything useful here yet.

I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for to progress......?

The seeds are from a holy tree. Find the best place to seed one.
With the well: obtain the favour of fortune.
The weather shrine: a quest from confirmed priests, you'll need the correct item.
Also, I think you're ready to enter the mage's guild.

I don't remember finding kath. Any hint?

Gambit, the VI rune can be obtained
1

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with the priest's guild

(the more logical way)
2

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with the well puzzle (but there are 2 wells

in the game, only 1 is correct)
You can buy an empty flask and enter into the fountain area using a key;

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this can be found in each guild (there are 4 keys)

. With a certain

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plant

and a water flask the VI potion is easy to get.

Zyx, the KATH rune is in a

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"connection room"

Adamski wrote:What's the problem? The map makes you annoyed? What do you mean?

thats a personal problem only for me i think.
my overview are critical bad and with this complicatet map im just overextended...also cause the doors open/closed like their want and the ghost
kill me many many times.
i found the map but if i switch between your game / windows sometimes the game freeze...and also i have no printer at home to just print it out
(i make a pic from the map )

Lai, are these freezes a your windows problem or do you think is a problem of my dungeon?
I didn't speak about your overwiev, I know that this level is difficult. But is not so big and there are many way to escape from the ghost. He's fast and annoying, but I wanted he was so dangerous. You can go away and he will lose your tracks. Use the ladders, the grates-pits and the teleports to go away from him and, with a little luck, you will find the item for your craved vengeance.

Adamski wrote:Lai, are these freezes a your windows problem or do you think is a problem of my dungeon?
I didn't speak about your overwiev, I know that this level is difficult. But is not so big and there are many way to escape from the ghost. He's fast and annoying, but I wanted he was so dangerous. You can go away and he will lose your tracks. Use the ladders, the grates-pits and the teleports to go away from him and, with a little luck, you will find the item for your craved vengeance.

hmh...maybe u give a little clue where to search? cause i even cant feel it like a pleasure
hehe

about the freeze im sure that this is nor problem of the dungeon, cause sometimes i could change very fast between game/desktop, and sometimes it freeze...

The bigger the bother with the phantom, the bigger the pleasure when you will kill him. Look

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in the sewers, going down into the grate number 2.

@Lai: Fullscreen games take a lot of system resources and aren't really designed to be left playing "in the background" -- I'm not surprised if you get crashes when switching to the desktop!

I've found a gameplay bug.

In the Mage Guild, I blew up the boiler, killed all the wasps, blocked the golems with barrels and am now exploring. I found a room with many alcoves and spell scrolls. One scroll is "Dispell Magic" -- and if you read it, you are paralysed. But I don't have the ZO rune! I'm assume that the Dispell Magic will remove the paralysis, but if you don't have ZO, then you are completely stuck. I couldn't even kill myself (not enough mana for fireballs) so had to Alt+F4 the whole game.

Gambit, how did you reach this area without the zo rune? Maybe from the pit?

Edit: It's a serious problem, another thing to change in next version... Now you can only alt F4

There are news: money sent me his savegame (ver 1.0, the most instable) and I've finished his game (very close to the end) without freeze. I don't understand the strange behaviour of this dungeon...

I got into the mage area through the front door with the eye. Then when I was passed the eye,

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I used a Staff to open the doors (it has a Zo spell as an attack method

). There's also another strange thing about that first eye -- it says "It's too dark", but I have full brightness from all the FUL spells I have cast

Anyway, I have another problem. What am I supposed to do with this

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small caged screamer, the round floor ring, and the three pits with the wooden door? The scroll says to press the pad behind the door but I can't close the pit cover

. I do have the IR key though, I think I should go and get some water

I don't understand the strange behaviour of this dungeon...

If *you* don't understand it, then what hope have we?

You must

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press the pad to close the pit

. Try to understand how the

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teleport-spinner

works.
About the ZO spell, what can I do? Maybe remove all the staffs from the game before this guild? I think it is excessive.

Edit: or maybe put another

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ZO rune in the laboratory?

It will be a surprise!

Where is the ZO rune anyway? I haven't found it. Now I have LO, ON, EE, YA, VI, FUL, KATH and VEN

="Gambit37...

Anyway, I have another problem. What am I supposed to do with this

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small caged screamer, the round floor ring, and the three pits with the wooden door? The scroll says to press the pad behind the door but I can't close the pit cover

look at it, what goes on. if u want to see what a tele exactly do,

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try to cast a spell which dont gone at the moment u cast it away, cast one that point u the spot for whole seconds.

first
second: do not kill all screamers, if something told you

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one should be alive.

third:
take a real good look at

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the items you get before, use them, and look which way their working---and you`ll understand

Where is the ZO rune anyway?

There is a message about it: search there.

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You need this rune to finish this guild.

Edit:
Lai, the ghost? Is he still alive?

yesterday first i was too tired to play after work, and at evening i drinking some beer at city with friends...
now im a little bit destroyed and so i think i will play this evening/night

OK, I solved the teleporter and got the key. I still don't know what the bonsai screamer is for though.

Adamski wrote:There is a message about it: search there

Search where? In the Mage Guild?

Yes, in an area where you would

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get trapped forever if didn't have the ZO spell

. But this can't happen because there is the rune ( a hint: there aren't illusory walls )

Lai:

at evening i drinking some beer at city with friends...

You can go on with drinking beer also in the phantom cellar if you like

Sorry Adamski, I don't understand you. Are you saying that the Zo rune is right next to the scroll that paralyses you? How can this be? -- you previously said I shouldn't have been able to get in here without a Zo rune.... I'm confused!

Where is the message about the zo rune? I haven't seen one.

Ok, I try to be clearer:

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there is a little corridor with fireballs (upper floor of the mage's guild). There you get trapped because a door closes and you, to open it, must walk on a pad which activates the fireballs: the fireballs kill you. If you search, there is a secret area with an alcove and a message. Read it and do what it says.

Hmmm.... OK, I found that scroll. But it just sasys "

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Zo. Open/Close doors.

" -- that doesn't help: the problem is that I DON'T HAVE THE ZO RUNE YET. I've been

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using a staff with a Zo attack method

, but it's now run out of charges and vanished.

EDIT: Never mind, I see what you mean now! OK got it

OK, so I found the way out of the Mage Guild using ZO, but I still don't have the clan key piece. I assume it's behind the fluxcage, but I've not been able to turn this off? I tried pushing a table into the fluxcage and the whole game froze!

Oops, never mind, I forgot the new spell I learned. It was yesterday and I didn't write it down!

I tried pushing a table into the fluxcage and the whole game froze!

Why does it freeze? Actually it's only a teleport which blocks the party. I'll check this anomaly

Maybe because it had candles on it? I don't know -- this will be an internal RTC issue probably (ie, a bug?)

Cool, I worked out what the bonsai was for Nice! I also got into the two wells.

Now I need to finish the Priest's guild and the Thief guild, as well as sort out Khoran's final resting place. I'm not entirely sure what to do with any of these. I can grow trees OK, but not sure where exactly they should go.

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Should it be under the pits where the wasps came from, so that I can cross the pits above?

No, the

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trees are helpful to complete the priest's guild puzzle

, but not necessary: somebody has succeeded without. I suggest not to use the seeds until you understand how they can help you.