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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:21 pm
by PaulH
It makes me laugh when the baddies all have English accents.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:26 pm
by BloodFromStone
I always laugh, but really when you think it's quite sad that a character's personality can be derrived from their accent. Not only as far as writing, but as far as what that says about society. You hear a thick russian accent in a movie, and you can generally guess he's a bad guy. A french accent, and he's probably a charmer/artisty fellow...
But, then again, this is only works with certain kinds of movies. :) There's a whole list of movies that defy these stereotypes.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:27 pm
by Gambit37
Thank god!

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:30 pm
by PaulH
The same goes for a lot of comedy sketches in the UK. 'Thick' people are generally given the Brummie accent, tight people the Scottish accent and, well, the Liverpudlian accent I dare not comment on.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:33 pm
by BloodFromStone
Yeah, there's supposably a similar deal for Japanese accents, too. I can't distinguish them very well, myself, but my friend who studies Japanese always has fun pointing out various accents and stereotypes in anime/games.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 10:36 pm
by PaulH
Its the weird and wonderful nature of our world. In my home land, we can spot variations in accents (in Yorkshire) between towns just a few miles apart , but in other countries it always sounds very simililar. However, the US accent obviously varies a lot throughout the states. Do you have a similar thing to us in the UK, with our teasing of neighbours (states?)

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:00 pm
by beowuuf
gambit/bsg: shame you missed the first normal episode, it is utterly amazing!

and i don't notice his english accent, i just think they happened to pick the best actor...i love balthar, in the original he's jsut some smug evil guy, this balthar is just a very flawed man constantly finding himself in worse and worse situations, and slowly giving himself over to evil
a much more interesting progression!

lol, yeah, it's amazing how an accent can make all the difference and make you think a certain way about someone. The various scottish accents are actuaslly noticeable too, and must admit that they conjure certain prejudices!

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:06 pm
by PaulH
Hey Beo, what do you think of Rab C. Nesbitt?!

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:10 pm
by beowuuf
i thought it was hilarious back when i watched it, but not as funny as the fact that there were lots of complaints about people not being able to understand it down in your neck of the woods!

once you get passed the barking glasweign is easy enough to understand, the fun is hearing doric like some of the older aberdonian poeple speak...or some of the broader island accents

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:13 pm
by PaulH
I thought it was great (and understood it!) but I got the impression a lot of Scots hated it. Stereotypes, eh? Most people think I live on a farm somewhere in Emmerdale...

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:19 pm
by beowuuf
lol, nah, i loved it too
then again, i'm not glasweign!

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:22 pm
by PaulH
I like Colin Mongomeries 'Scottish' accent...

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:29 pm
by beowuuf
don't know him
also don't know anythign about sheffield, or really any english geography as i discovered in a trip down south a while ago

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:32 pm
by PaulH
Colin? Scottish golfer? Your having a larf ain't ya?! Sheffield's north anyway...

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:35 pm
by beowuuf
OH, I SEE! YOU THINK I KNOW ABOUT GOLFING BECAUSE I'M SCOTTISH, DO YOU!
I WILL TELL YOU THIS, I WILL TELL YOU THIS... *shakes paper*

nah, vaguely knew the name but not really anything about him. Don't follow golf : ) Unless he's a famous golfer from Aberdeen, in which case my boss may well play golf with his father sometimes (if it's the same guy)

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:37 pm
by PaulH
Lol!!! I thought you may know Colin's accent, since it is more English than mine! I know you all get patriotic etc

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:41 pm
by beowuuf
a friend of mine and i get stared at about being scottish - me because i don't have a strong accent, him because poeple call him canadian, irish...no reason!

my mother has the army brat accentlessness from travellign when she was younger, even though she is from aberdeen too

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:44 pm
by PaulH
People say I am 'posh' because of my accent - no doubt being at university changed it a little. I sometimes hear 'Barnsley' folk speak on TV and cringe at how bloody awful they sound.

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:48 pm
by beowuuf
yeah, a friend from university had tried to lose her deep london accent, and did it well..so funny to hear her deliberately speak like it...freakish!

And after mentioning barnsley, i now have the whole writer/coal miner sketch from monty python in my head
"Bloody fancy talk since you went poncin' off to barnsley..."

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:54 pm
by Gambit37
I'm from Brighton, of which the indigenous accent is rather 'common'. But I don't have that accent as my mum was a pretentious toff in the making, a Hyacinth Bucket (even though she's realy a cockney). When people meet me they think I went to public school and ride horses. Well, not any more -- I have managed to be more down to earth on the last 10 years or so....

Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2005 11:59 pm
by beowuuf
hey, don't mock public school, i went to one for six years : )
i would have rode horses, but the fees were so expensive we didn't have enough money for normal food, and meat is meat...

i think the worst accent i ever came across was in blackpool...i had been checking out this nice dancing girl all night, and at the end of the night i walked over to her and said that i thought she was a fantastic dancer
the 'aww, thanks hen' or whatever few words she said was enough to make me run a mile...not that i'm shallow or anything...
funnily, most people i met in blackpool were actually from glasgow...so the balckpool accent came as a shock!

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:01 am
by Gambit37
Oh yeah, a rank speaking voice can kill the magic. Been there a few times! 'Snot shallow -- just honest!

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:18 am
by PaulH
OK, ok... just how old are you two?

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:21 am
by beowuuf
12?

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:27 am
by PaulH
I was 12 once

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:30 am
by Gambit37
12 pounds 4 ounces. Twice on Sundays.

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:30 am
by beowuuf
those were good days
stupid 27 1/2 years old...i'm getting gray hairs now!

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:32 am
by Gambit37
I am 32, gawd damn and blast yer googley eyes!

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:33 am
by PaulH
That old?! Dear me. Does it get better at that age?!

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 12:36 am
by beowuuf
yes, does 'it' get any better at that age?