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Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:51 pm
by DSE
Ogre3D is a very, very good engine. It will more than accomodate your requirements but it needs a skilled hand to craft it (it will only do so much for you), if you see what I mean. Good luck.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:19 pm
by Ultramarine
What about your engine DSE? It seems quite good too. Are you planning on releasing the source code some time? How does your engine (only you know it in detail) compare to Ogre3D?

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:59 pm
by DSE
Mine isnt in a ready state for release. Its not really an engine and the source has gone through several rewrites as I have learnt new things. Ogre is a much more professional and elegantly composed engine. Mine just does what I require for my DM clone, thats it. Having said that, its taken me bloomin ages to write and it can do a lot of the modern rendering stuff now.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:51 pm
by Ultramarine
Yeah, your engine is fairly advanced. It would be cool with a decent framework.

Will look into Ogre3D now.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:14 am
by Zyx
I saw the video footages. Nice fireball!
Like for DSE's Entombed, I'm curious to know if you plan to handle outdoors scenes, if you have at least a basic level editor to toy with, and how big you plan to make your game (just a dungeon or a whole campaign?)

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:45 pm
by Ultramarine
What's up?! Post and make this thread alive!

What are your ideas for a dungeon game...what do you like to see.

Best regards,
Ben

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:18 am
by Bit
I ever thought about a game where time is a factor.
Slay the first monster and face the consequence:
you'll become a monster later, you're thrown back in time, in a room where a young fighter has to make his first senseless kill...
Teach those kids some manners! :)

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:38 pm
by Ultramarine
I think slaying innocent NPCs could trigger a metamorphosis but slaying a monster? After all, it's about slaying monsters.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:13 pm
by Ultramarine
UPDATE:

The following positions have been filled:

- Lead Programmer
- Programmer
- 3D Environment Artist
- Composer
- Writer
- Level Designer

Open positions:

- Concept Artist
- 3D Creature Artist

If you're interested in one or more of the open positions, please apply under: ultramarine@gmx.de

Best regards,
Ben

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 11:50 pm
by zoom
cool, you have filled quite many positions! you really mean it ultramarine!

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:48 pm
by DSE
Well done. Things should start to move for you. Can I ask if you have gone for a current open source engine, or are you coding a new one from scratch? Also, did you get any volunteers from here or did they come from elsewhere ? Just interested :O) Keep up the good work.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:51 am
by Ultramarine
DSE, We'r using XNA/C# as platform and none of the people came from here, so far.

Best regards,
Ben

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:07 am
by zoom
well, I volunteered as concept artist, but as a matter of fact donĀ“t have enough potential atm to contribute to the project . :( :o

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:57 am
by DSE
Cool, you will be able to port yours to the xbox 360. I have done some work on this and its really cool how you can run (more or less) the same code on a pc and xbox. The xbox is foooooking quick as well when you get your code correct.

Cant wait to see some screen shots and a demo. Good work my friend.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:59 am
by DSE
By the way. If you get stuck or just want to bounce ideas of me, please feel free. I assume you are aiming for a flick screen 3d jobby like my entombed ?

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:43 pm
by Ultramarine
DSE: I'll keep that in mind.
I assume you are aiming for a flick screen 3d jobby like my entombed ?
Well, we're aiming for realism, as it is common these days for computer games. Graphics-wise it will have an equal quality to your Entombed.
A simple dungeon master rewrite makes no sense for this project, because:
1) It has been done already
2) Only updating the gfx does not add new gameplay features and has not enough substance for an independent product; also we don't want to infringe copyright.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:11 pm
by DSE
Realism = lots and lots and lots of work and lots and lots of horse power in the target machines. Good luck, its going to be tough.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:37 pm
by Ultramarine
hehe
well, the target machines are not the problem. When the development phase is over, current high-end machines are pretty mid-/low-end.
We're developing for Geforce 9800 class minimum.

The other point - realism - requires a lot more thinking, but it can be done. When we've got something running, I'll post some screenshots.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:29 pm
by DSE
WTF - Geforce 9800 minimum, its gunna rock if thats your minimum and you utilize that power.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 10:02 pm
by Ultramarine
Quad 3.2/Geforce 9800 is the system specs of our main coder, so yes, that's minimum. Thanks for your comment DSE :) We hope too that it will rock... :D

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:20 pm
by DSE
My specs for entombed are a basic 4096 node neural network with x64 crossfire directx 10 cards and 1TB of ram. it runs entombed sweet.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:29 pm
by Ultramarine
LOL

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:14 am
by Bit
Just make sure that one Atari can handle one fireball :twisted:

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:14 am
by DSE
LOL

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:31 pm
by Erik Bauer
Maybe I'm a bit too late for this but... however... I could if needed, contribute about storywriting/level designing/NPC concepts or similar things.
I have more than 13 years of RPG GameMastering so if it is needed I can help pulling out Background stories, characterized NPCs descriptions or ideas for level designing, maybe even some level designing.

I know these roles have been filled yet but I'm ok to act as a sidekik or a reserve if needed.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 2:00 pm
by Erik Bauer
Are there any news about this project?

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:47 pm
by DSE
I think its dead.

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:41 pm
by Erik Bauer
Whew... it seems that the deception rate of DM clones is very very high!

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:52 pm
by DSE
Its difficult to write a clone like the original. Its 200% harder to do it with modern graphics and then a further 100000% harder if you include physics in a 3d environment. Many commercial 3d games never make it to market and they have funding and professional programmers and a dedicated art team. If I ever win the lottery I promise you I will finish a modern interpretation of DM .... just need that winning ticket :O)

Re: Seeking coders, artists for DM-like game project

Posted: Thu Dec 24, 2009 8:29 am
by Erik Bauer
LOL!
Yuo're perfectly right, coding is difficult enough when you're payed to do that, let alone when doing it for a no profit project.

I wish you all the best for Christmas, DSE, and plus, a lot of luck for lottery tickets! ;-)