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Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:06 pm
by Gambit37
Ah right, sorry, I didn't mean the tint colour, I saw that this was already possible. I meant the actual drop-off range of how much tint is applied at each sub tile distance. In RTC you can specify a range from 0-255 -- the higher you go, the darker the furthest distance is tinted. Is that possible at all?
Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:23 pm
by Sophia
No. Mostly because I don't totally understand what you're asking for.
Do you mean that if, say, you specify a tint of 0, monsters would look like they did back when DSB was bugged?
Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:30 pm
by Gambit37
OK, it's a bit confusing I admit.
At the moment, you have a fixed calculation to work out how much shade to put over a monster at tile 1, tile 2 and tile 3. Perhaps it's something like +10%, +20% and +30% black, I don't know.
In RTC, if you increased the tint range, it would increase the amount of shading applied at each distance, so perhaps a higher value would instead make it +20%, +40%, +60%. (I'm talking about the shading applied to all flooritems, wallitems & monsters)
It's a nice feature that allows you create a fake "shorter" view ahead. I found it useful to make dark dungeons scarier -- it's harder to see what's coming ahead!

Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:31 pm
by Sophia
Something like that is definitely doable without too much difficulty.
Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:49 pm
by Paul Stevens
gambit37 wrote:now that I'm aware of how it all works
Overnight?
You're ready for the Olympics.
Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:00 am
by Gambit37
It may seem that way

. In truth I've been dabbling with DSB for about a year, but never really "got it". I had just been skating over the surface without letting myself really understand it -- and this was more because I was trying to hold onto RTC (I invested many years learning RTC so you can hardly blame me!)
So I kept walking away from DSB, frustrated. Last night I properly set myself a task, pulled apart some existing code, tinkered with my own -- and something went click. Most of my reservations about switching to DSB simply vanished. I can't really explain it, but I'm sure you must have had similar moments Paul?
Re: What's wrong with DSB?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 12:04 am
by Paul Stevens
Indeed. I am very happy that you experienced
this Ah-Ha moment. The creativity within you
needs the proper tool to get expressed.