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OK. That's a problem -- I already planted some trees! Do we get more seeds later?

In the priest's guild I can

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open a pit above the Black Flame in front of the door near the Fast Exit. But I can't find where the pit is on the level above?

Also on priests guild, I have

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released a ghost that's attacking the golems. Is this helpful?

Again priest's guild:

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Are the gas pipes that release poison important?

There are some seeds in

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a shop in the tower and others as bonus if you solve a little quest.

If you destroy a tree

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(you lose a priest level) a new seed is created in the garden.

Anyway if you don't have seeds is not a problem because, as I said, they are not necessary for the quest.
The mummy

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attacks the golems because they were created to attack the creatures

(you'll see which creature in particular...)
The gas

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is not important and the pit above the flame is in a unreachable area of the caves.

I have no idea what the Priest's guild quest is. Is it Khoran's bones?

This is the most difficult quest in the guild part. There are at least 4 clues inside the guild for completing it. Read the scrolls:

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somebody wished a better burial place, you know who is and where he would like to rest; he must be guided there, but the path could be dangerous; use some items to solve all the problems he can meet during his walking.

Edit: maybe instead quest it's better calling puzzle

im totaly stuck now at phanthom level...
i was going down all the creates, have found some of the square keys and use them, i now have only a gold key/and master key and dont know how to proceed...

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it seems the fire-creatures cant be killt by magic/vorpal blade and have to be flooded to kill.

only my start charakter are still alive and run out of water

You are not the first player stuck with the gold key puzzle: this is a case where

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being a thief is helpful.

There shouldn't be a water problem in these levels (cellar and sewers) because there is

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an infinite beer barrel

I imagine you have

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killed the ghost

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escape from the cellar solving a little riddle (read all the scrolls)

i use all the tankards where found here, but the full one

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i want to keep...i think i need it for something with a bread. but dont know at which place..

There are

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three barrels at south in the cellar near the teleport: it is in the middle.

Edit: the message

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"keep a full tankard and bread" was a hint for a riddle

in an old game version (where wasn't infinite beer). Now there isn't the risk of finishing the beer and I found a solution about the bread.

i now escape...

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Infinite free beer!

Where is this great place in real life????!?!?!?

Right, I have done quite a lot in one day lol, and am at the stair maze again.

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I have the two maps and understand the keys, and it looks like I have to open up an area to the far south. I can't figure out how to do it though - I can't get to the bit with the red arrow.

I put a new hint in the 3.1 version:

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you find a scroll with a message that says something like "pass on the green cross, do not pass on the red ones (where you can hear a click)".

I hope that it is easier.

I have 3.0

Not sure what to do, as they have clicked!

You must

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pass on the green cross avoiding the red crosses shown on the map; go south and search near the hedrik's bones: you'll find other bones behind some movable walls; but if you pass on the red crosses the walls appear and you must repeat the path starting again from the green cross.

It is difficult, but it could be you find the exit by chance: this level is really little.

im totally stuck now...
i havent flood the sewers,
i have only 3 cog-wheels,
i dont find one of the secrets books,
i have just one of the secrets maps,
i dont know how many gore coins are in game
and finally i think i missed some keys

When you flood the sewers you will find another cog.

How many flood control gates have you opened?

im not sure, im walking here around about 1hour i think..im little confused.
but i think i have seen 3 and 4... and a third one, but not sure if it was 1 or 2.
at this moment i am at the "water pressure" place

edit:
one of the cog i found was from the sewers

You need to concentrate on finding the keys for to flood the sewers. There is an illusionary wall near a teleporter next to the cave section.

Also make sure you have descended all the ladders and grates from the cellar. There ia a cog in the cellar too, in a barrel.

while walking around i now notice the activatet flood controls:
2,1,4... now im looking where 3 are

found the secret wall first time now but i have only 1 gold key

maybe i miss something cause i dont use the full tankard and the bread yet? scroll told me that i will need them

flood control 3 are the one i dont activate yet. i miss the key

You only neeed 1 gold key

Go back and try and retrieve it with something.

what i have to do with lord grey?
i think i get something from him to kill the demon?!

Lord Grey can help you

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to defeat the demon: take certain objects to him and his magic will transform them into useful items.

But before try to solve the clock puzzle if you want to explore the whole level and find what you need.

and which way he will do this?

i try first the dirty pants etc from the chest which was found at electric floor.
but if i put it down he stays at top and the item cant get back.

the wooden thing the scroll told about are to annoying for me to get..i tried a lot of times but fail

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the timedemon i killt my way and have the

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timegem, i also know what happens if it was thorwn.
i think best time to do this is while the shop are open.
before i kill the timedemon i have killt my party while using the electric floor.if i use the gem and the key and go only with alexei, i could walk around with a completely death party and pick up things

the wooden thing the scroll told about are to annoying for me to get..i tried a lot of times but fail

do you mean the door with the two pits?

Watch the floor of the main room and the circle that appears at each hour; connect this with the messages found in the scrolls (the timetable).

In your version it is possible walking on the electric floor with a little damage, but I have correct and now it is lethal. A question: how did you kill the demon? He is very very strong...

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you can pick up objects with a death party? It sounds strange...

i only play with alexei cause i dont know if i could pick up the stuff/bones from the others later.

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i buy mon rune and make mon-health potions with all flask i have (~10), then i sleep with already clicked the next mopn health potion in order to going to the demon, fight him with the rapier-its faster then the other weapons.
i used all the potions, and all my mana (~250)to make new ones until he dies.

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yes, it works every time alexei leaves the party while the others are dead

yes, it works every time alexei leaves the party while the others are dead

Ok, I've learnt a new thing.
Which is your game version? 2.0? From the 2.0 the timedemon is one of the hardest monster in the game... The correct way to kill it should be another, you have lost the fun of this level. But it's fair to permit other ways to solve a problem.

i played version 2.0
maybe i could play it this way cause i trained alexei a good amount of time. he have about 440 healthpoints

the scrolls at the scroll "timetable" i dont understand...
hmh..i think i go up...but frigthtened to play without alexei, cause the others are noobs
hehe

Lai, once I tested the game with a super character with 999 hp, master in all the classes, and with 250 points in every skill: the timedemon was a problem for me and I was worried about his difficulty. I wanted to decrease his power, but you (players in general) have surprised me again! You have been able to kill everything, also the monsters created to be invincible (timedemon, guards of the thieves prison, golems in the mage guild ecc...)

yes, cause playtester dont testing things which need to spend a lot of time...
i think things like that only player do which dont understand to solve the riddles
to kill the demon takes a lot of time cause i first testing the blue steel same way.

for my playstyle the clues are not strong enough; i realize that im stopped permanently cause
dont understand or dont notice clues.