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Whenever I get to the war thing, I don't really know what happens (other than that the orcs and hippies fight each other), so I'm just gonna do what I do with the other quests - follow it along and see how it turns out. That Wossname thing does sound cool (better than my Lucky Rabbit's Foot - if I had both equipped that'd be +18% to meat and item drops, grooovy ), but if I miss out on it, meh - it's not like you're limited to a certain number of Ascensions . At least I know I'll never have to hunt down all those bloody Dusty Bones again lol...Hmm maybe I should put my remaining ones in the stash if you chaps want a go...though of course I no longer have one of everything since I used any singles in making the skelly. But I wouldn't be surprised if 90+ of them I have multiples of.
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
By the way, if anyone needs elemental resistance for a particularly tough fight (*cough* Lord Spookyraven *cough*), I'd be willing to loan you my battered hubcap shield. It'll make you pretty much invincible. Unfortunately, you can't get it until after the MacGuffin quest, which is decidedly inconvenient.
I left spooky mushrooms, bowl of cottage cheese, cranberries, ghuol ears and eggs, grapefruit, lemon, lihc eye, tomato and uncooked chorizo in the stash since I don't have direct use for them but are basic components.
Hey zyx, I'm getting the basic components of new chef and bartender together for when mine go bang, but I don't mind donating the parts to you instead so you can cook and mix drinks for free
Keep the lihc eyes - lihc eye pie is pretty satisfying for low level characters able to create them for free
for free? But I need to buy some equipment to cook and spend 1 adventure for each cooking, right?
I just spent 30 adventures trying to get the perfume in the Knobb Harem, to no avail. I wonder if I'm doing the right thing.
Ah, for free i mean for free adventure wise - the cook/bartender removes the one adventure penalty. Though they eventually blow up
And you are doign the exactly the right thing...the random number generator is a harsh mistress sometimes. You are right, you still need to buy or spend adventures to get the items!
Hmm, I thiiiiiiink the perfume drops aswell when you start adventuing there. It might be worthwhile adventuring in the harem outfit, and have the king thump you and tell you you don't smell right
Chances are I've still got some spare in my inventory anyway...you also might wanna check the Clan Stash and if you can't find any there then I can send you mine (if I've got any)...or you can just keep trying and see if it drops for you .
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
Yeah, I think I have some too - more importantly, I've just crafted a chef amnd bartender for you (including the items they need to use) so you can start cooking and cocktail mixing without fear of adventure loss!
If you can get access to the bugnear bakery, good plain food I find is using hills of beans and spices and dough to create spicy bean burits (use japeno peppers fro mthe hermit for insanely spaic() and pie tins, dough and lihc eye for lihc eye pie
Drink is tricker - fermenting powder with weirder fruits give ok schnapps, but I found tomato and vodka and spice for extra spicy bloody mary pretty cool, or rum, spice and ghoul egg for eggnog (not as easy to get)
Many thanks!
I ran out of components quickly. How do you acquire them? Drops only? Do you buy them at the shop?
I think something is wrong with my game because I met 5 times a shaky clown, pickpocketted him, killed him, with +10%drop bonus, and never got one single item.
I only found 10 items in the last 80 fights more or less.
It depends on where you go, but that sounds about right. The designers made it exceptionally difficult to farm anything in this game, choosing to rely instead on a large helping of randomness, which is what turned me off in the first place, and yet here I am.
Components can be bought at various points in the game, but in the beginning I think you're resigned to finding them. I hope the good stuff we're leaving in the stash doesn't spoil you for the wimpy stuff you make yourself in the early stages. You're welcome to chow down on lasagna and sexy booze, but remember: it took us a long time to get to the point where we could freely share that stuff! And it still isn't free; I spend 1000 meat — not including other ingredients — and an adventure on every super-food item I cook. (Wok of Ages takes an adventure no matter if you have a chef-in-the-box.) At this stage, meat comes pretty easy, and I feel like it's worthwhile when beo tells me he got 26 adventures from a single meal.
Earning stuff on your own in this game is very gratifying, though I must confess, I've been using the wiki quite a bit. I'm not a big fan of random experimentation, especially when there's a very limited number of times you can do it each day, and resources aren't exactly forthcoming since you can't buy the majority of stuff you need.
So, what, that makes three moxie characters and one pastamancer? Our clan is feeling a bit one-sided to me. :P
My booze comes a little easier, but can only get 10 super-boozes/mixers and five accessories (so five super drinks) each day, if I manage to pick the right items
The RNG is a harsh mistress, yet somehopw it just compells you to come back again and again. Skill, a run of bad luck like you have experienced can be annoying. Also, alot of times you need to know you must get an item for it to be seeded randomly into the game too -
For food, you can buy many items when you unlock the right areas - the hippy shop for mixer components, the bugbear bakery, etc. I find fernathy's basement and the haunted pantry and cobb's knob drop food ok Booze also comes in the barrel full of barrels, if you have the adventures to spare (it might not be cost effective), attacking clowns (funnily enough), frat boys wat the island, etc
I have a stupidly large amount of rum and tequila right now if you want any by the way!
I must admit to using the wiki a bit too - especially when you find out you are doing something right, but the RNG made it seem like you were batting your head against a bricj wall (or vice versa)
And lol Tom, I have a secondary seal clubber at about level 6 - I might not assend my disco bandit, and use him to experiment with the corners of the game, and insteadrush through and then assend the seal clubber...
There's some stuff you can only gain access to after Ascending, though, like the mushroom farming thing. My dad's been doing that - you plant mushroom spores in your mushroom plot, or something, but you have to plant certain ones next to each other, then they take several (RL) days to grow and turn into different stuff depending on different phases of the two moons, and then you have to plant them again in certain ways once you've grown them into certain things and it all grows again and stuff, and eventually you can get a Gravy Fairy. Or something.
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
The mushroom thing, and anything you get from ascension really, is also dependent on your sign, which means exactly two-thirds of the game will be unavailable to any given character, and that rather annoys me, too. As far as I'm concerned, this game has zero replay value when starting from scratch, but just enough if you didn't have to scrap your character. I would have preferred a new-game+ sort of thing where the encounters are all leveled.
I think that's why all the spoilers are so vehemently discouraged and why we've shot ourselves in the foot so much spoiling side items
I guess you are supposed to concentrate all your adventures and time on the quests, then when you assend the replay value comes, in subseequent turns, discovering all these hidden thigns as you combine items, work out much better drinks than before, and essentially with your new knowledge and knowledge of the basicas of the game race through faster but with cool stuff
I know I managed to get a 6th level seal clubber pretty swiftly due to knowing what I was doing ,and of course the speed assender records are crazy
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnyway just wanted to announce I farmed some Spooky-Gro fertiliser fro ma secondary account (five spares for the clan) if you have anything wanting fertilised, and lso dropped four gimlets (with mysticaliy goodness) and a Mon Tiki in too
Too much is random to give me any incentive to replay or not cheat. If the game required more deductive logic inasmuch as what you can and can't do --- e.g., why can you make a wine spritzer but not gin-and-tonic? why not a whiskey high-ball? what does rat sausage stir fry require that you start with mushroom stir fry? --- and the encounters were dictated by something other than RNG --- particularly the ultra-rares --- I, as an explorer, would be far more interested in playing again.
I can complain because I'm an explorer playing a game designed top-to-bottom for achievers. The few things I did manage to discover on my own were fairly simple. I remember the magic users of Asheron's Call, how they would literally sit around a magic shop all day experimenting with various reagents, trying to figure out what made spells and what didn't. I play a magic user for all of 15 minutes before I lost interest. Random experimentation does not do it for me, so I need the wiki to get any enjoyment out of this game.
I do like to know what's possible and put it to use. I just don't like playing for 12 hours to procure 12 seconds of enjoyment. Had I not cheated on the MacGuffin quest, I never would have gotten past the first stage. That's especially peculiar because I consider myself an intelligent, patient man. Maybe I'm just tired of all the clickies and list-boxes. To be fair, this game would be infinitely more fun with a Java, icon-driven interface.
Zyx - Yes, combining Spooky-Gro Fertiliser with a Ghuol Egg gives you a fertilised Ghul Egg - put it in your Terrarrium to acquire the Ghuol Whelp familiar. Mine's called Nibbler . His ability is that he consumes stuff you've just killed to restore your hp and mana, so he's pretty cool (but unlike the Mosquito, not much good if you need a heal during the battle ).
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
You can make a gin and tonic, but you need tonic water - guess who can create that
Yeah, the RNG feature and obscurity of some of the combines (you need to smith items to wear, except when you just combine the items instead) can be offputting, but overall I've enjoyed it enough!
By the way, if any of you picked up some long pork at the ruins, I can turn that into lasagna. It's not particularly easy to come by. Frankly, I can make better lasagna more easily, but I've got 22 black peppers waiting to be used, and the only thing you can cook it with is long pork.
I've just noticed we have 200k in the stash - free slots in the Rumpus Room are the outlet, rug, and corner. About the only thing that looks mostly cool would be the meat bush thingy (1k meat per day per member) which costs 200k. Anyone got any preferences? We may as well fill all the slots in the room with something, I suppose, but there's nothing left which grants extra adventures so...
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
Erm...can't be arsed to type it out again...look back earlier in the thread and see if you find whatever page it was in which I posted up that list of all the furniture and what each piece does.
And you seem to imply you don't get your meat back after you Ascend...but I thought you could do, in small doses like with your items (unless you choose to play Hardcore)?
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Ameena, self-declared Wordweaver, Beastmaker, Thoughtbringer, and great smegger of dungeon editing!
Oh, you can, I more meant that meat at the tail end of the game seems worth much less once you have your skills compared to when we assend. ATM I get @4500 per day from the grateful hippy shop.
Anyway, there are 3 vodka stratocasters, a mae west and two yellow brick roads in the stash for everyone...I seem to have enough adventures to burn on small quests like gettign the digital key and getting my supplies for new chefs and bartenders
I fuigured out one of the first three riddles on the lair gate right away for the naughty sorceress, need to figure out the second one...could be a few things, or might be somehtign I haven't seen before
An extra 1,000 wouldn't hurt. That's the cost of MSG, and I'm sure Zyx could use the cash. If we all take a hit every day, it'll pay for itself in 50 days. I'm not sure I'll even be playing that long, but since I did put the last 35,000 in the stash specifically to bring us up to 200K, you might as well use it.
), but if I miss out on it, meh - it's not like you're limited to a certain number of Ascensions 
. At least I know I'll never have to hunt down all those bloody Dusty Bones again lol...Hmm maybe I should put my remaining ones in the stash if you chaps want a go...though of course I no longer have one of everything since I used any singles in making the skelly. But I wouldn't be surprised if 90+ of them I have multiples of.
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