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Hi Adamsky, welcome back. Nice work with tower. Looking for next one!

I do not see any red crosses. I am stopped at the stairs leading to the crosses. There are unmovable walls at the stair wells. Help!! This is a job for ADAMSKI !!!!!!! Welcome back!!, any suggestions??

Thank you everybody. Between March and April I moved from Italy to UK, this is the main reason of my disappearance. I do not have free time at the moment and, about all, I don't have a decent computer to improve my games or build a new one (it's uncomfortable with a netbook).
Glecko, finally you are near the ending . The crosses are in the maps, not the magic maps.

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You should find the 2 scroll maps of the stair maze, they are hidden behind fake/movable walls. Avoid the red crosses and walk on the green ones. When you find the second skeleton of the two lovers (Edrik and Isabel), the way to next floor will be opened.

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thank you , thank you, thank you. I think this will help. I have a spare apple mini if it would help. Let me know. I love the fact that i can run mac and PC OS's at the same time!!

It appears that I am still stumped. I am at the skeleton of hedrik, But I do not find the corrido

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r with the crosses or the invisible spinner.

I cannot find the skeleton of isabel. I do not find an

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invisible spinner.

There is something I have done incorrectly, or I have not done at all. There is a stairwell with 4 stairs down that clicks. I can not tell what it is doing. I have a spell that will not execute. zo ir. Have i found a bug? I do not think so. Other people would have found it.

The place with the 4 stairs and the click is

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the red cross

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Once you walk on the red cross, you need to restart the level (exit and re-enter on the mirror) because the click move a wall near Hendrick bones and stuck you.

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For this part, you need the two scrolls with the maps of the stairs.

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-oh!!!! You mean that the

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red cross and the green arrow only appear on the maps!!!!!

Why didn't you say so? you did? ok thanks!

I am still stuck. Do I have to go all the way back to the starting spot, or the starting time of the entire level?

Gleco: If I recall, there is a

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green arrow AND a green spot

. You must go to the

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green spot first

, then the

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green arrow

, without passing any

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red cross squares

. I think the

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green spot is the trigger and the red crosses shut it off

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I finally got through the stairs maze and am immediately stuck on the gem level. I am fixated on the yellow pad. I am trying to figure out the significance of the scroll and the items in the alcove.

The entire gem level is using

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those two gems

. When dropped or thrown,

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one gem is a left teleport and the other a right teleport

. The first pad is a reminder that getting items on a pad will trigger things. There are a lot of throwing weapons around for some reason...

what

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2 gems?

There are

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2 gems

somewhere?

The first thing you should do is find

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the winged key

, after that you will get

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the red and the blue gem. ALL other problems can be solved "easily" using properly these gems.

Adamski, is there any purpose (if so, hint?) for sqare-big-gem machine at gem level?
How to pass instapushback teleporters close to it? (there is rune behind)

I got rune anoteher place, but still curious about it.

Chanis, in both cases you can

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use the gems

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1.

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the lightning bolts must hit

the big gem machine

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to close a pit near

Zenith; however after solving the key-puzzle the

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holes stop shooting

, so you can't use the gem machine any more; a question: how did you reach

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the area near Zenith whitout solving

the gem-machine puzzle?
2. it's impossible passing the small round pressure pads (actually I'm not sure ), anyway you can

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get the rune from afar

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another question: how did you open the treasure chamber in the gem level I found a "cheat" to enter without using the gems. I suspect many players used this easy way instead solving the puzzle. Although it is quite difficult, nobody asked for a hint

Speed boots work to get past

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the small pressure pads

. As for the gem treasure, I asked

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Lord Chaos

for some help, just need to know

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how many steps to take at the top of the ladder

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When I finished, Treasure Chamber J was listed as not complete. I think that was the

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mirror level

. I got that treasure, but never opened the front door by the treasure picture. What is need to complete a treasure room?

RobH, the problem of the Treasure Chamber J is strange. The "secret-trigger" is in the same square where you found the chest, maybe you didn't walk on it.
About the treasure room in the Gem Level, I mean the Treasure Chamber L, not the chamber in the Pit Level. You told how you entered in the Treasure Chamber M, and that's the correct way.

Adamski wrote:edit//
another question: how did you open the treasure chamber in the gem level I found a "cheat" to enter without using the gems. I suspect many players used this easy way instead solving the puzzle. Although it is quite difficult, nobody asked for a hint

I found that puzzle to be quite difficult, but not needing a hint because by that point it is not hard to

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fiugre out that you need to use the gems, its just the timing that I had problems with.

And yes, you can get past the small round pressure pads by

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just mashing forward.

I imagine that the pads have some sort of delay so that your party actually moves into the square before you get pushed back,

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in which case you just have to be fast and persistant.

Out of curiosity, who killed the mage? Never could figure that out...

The gem treasure was hard until I realized

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the pad opened the door

. Then it was just a matter of working out

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the gem sequence

. I had more trouble with the master key and the shield in the fireball alcove.

Adamski: Zenith is reachable using rope with hook. Took me a while to do it from right angle, but it work nicely - more than once.
For trasure chamber, don't remember. I used gems and timming in areas around, so i expect to i soved it same way.

However, I am curious. i solved all treasure rooms apart from last. I used junius G to access it, I had one more gem spare, bit I never managed to find final rewarding anounced treasure room. Was quite disapointing ... where it is?

Will you fix resurect-boosted-uber-hero feature to avoid making powermembers once you got ku rune etc?

I have a question. I have a full party. is this ok? recommended? What is the spell that will not launch?

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Zo Ir?

. What is a hook? and if you mean grapple, can I have a hint as to where this might be found?? Give me a 2x4 style hint (you know, like hitting me with a 2x4).

The grapple looks like a rope and is found

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on the pit level

. I walked past it a dozen times thinking it was just another rope. I prefer two party members, that way I can stack them on one side when facing spell casters. Two members also cuts down on party management like food water and heals. I used to do DM with two party members max and usually just one.

I found out 4 party members as waste of time management, food, water. As i writen before, i prefer 2 members. Usualy stacked at bottom line. And for casters .. step forward, both hit melle, step back, wait for spell and turn to evade it. As members at bottom line, you can see spell passing by and you have less problems timing turn back and reattack.
If one get hurt, move other one ahead and while front still melle fight, second complete curing (2-3 combat rounds)

I ended with Alex + Zenith and it was quite fine. richard is proly better choice. But I liked Zenith picture ))))))

Actually, if you have your fighters on the back row, and get your reflexes up, you can spin away while still toe to toe. At least in CSBwin and normal DM. I think RTC isn't much differnt.

Where exactly is the pit level. My advancing alzheimers is blocking my powers of recollection. Really. Not really

The pit level is behind the door with the beholder mirror in the gem level.
You need to complete the lvl (you will find the key in the last part of the lvl).

Will you fix resurect-boosted-uber-hero feature to avoid making powermembers once you got ku rune etc?

I'd like to fix, but I don't know how to do. I think it is a RTC bug. Anyway I have in mind a few small changes and fixes for the next version. Obviously any suggestion would be appreciated.
A question for all the players: who was able to reach the final treasure chamber after opening ALL the other 13 rooms? In a past version there was a bug that (I think) I have fixed.

As i written in previous post. I opened all, but maybe i looked on wrong place. Is it on Junius level?

I returned to treasure chamber J. I walked around and got a "treasure found" message when I stepped on the spot next to the treasure chamber sign. That released the teleport walls around treasure

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below the guild hall

. That treasure had a message

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that it was the biggest treasure in the dungeon, maybe

. Is there a bigger treasure? Or was that the final treasure chamber?

@Chanis: the final treasure room is on green wall level, after the vigor door
@RobH: Yes, is there a bigger treasure, but in next chapter (QoNW) . The next game will have the other secret chambers (From N to Z) and a really final room with the biggest treasure.
@lbk:

Out of curiosity, who killed the mage?

a hint is in Korahn's diary, the truth will be told at the start of The Quest of the Nine Worlds