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Well, I made a fair bit of progress!

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I need to complete the lanterns puzzle, and also get into the crypt - not sure how to do it though. I got the scroll about guidance, does that mean the escaped mummy? Because he disappeared up the stairs somehow, and I also got him to run onto a pit, and he disappeared again. Also I had to sell a lot of stuff t buy a vorpal blade as a ghost was at the bottom of the stairs into the priests guild and I couldn't get him to go away.

All in all fantastic work, has kept me going most the day (and night!)

good morning @ all

the poison cloud appears -if i remember right- if

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all monsters are genereted. but maybe i havent look at it not until i kill them all.

if u could change this you should do at next version cause the player things its a part of the riddle.
in my version the

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eye appear and disappear like u told, but i havent found the solution for it.

i have spend my time with the

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rat-riddle, i was very impresed. then i look ~ over 1 hour at the following place which a screamer are trapped into door with smaller/biger switches.i have the item from the alcove there, but i think this was NOT part of the biger/smaller switch.

i also try to close the pit at the

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treasure-sign but failed. i failed too, to open the magical door there.

hieronymus house:
maybe i have missed something, cause i cant remember there was something to do...but i have played yesterday about 10+ hours, so its hard to remember.
what i know are that i was in the backyard.

@paul
i want to buy the vorpal too, but i dont know what to sell...i have waste much money at the start cause eating reagents...and then waste them to train priest cause i have thought in this version u only could make pots with reagents... i get the spellbook very late.
but if u couldnt buy the vorpal yet, maybe u could walk while using

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warcry or the horn of fear if u have it yet.

also, if i remember right, the ghost only appears if u

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throw one of the two flask at a wall

about the latern riddle:
do u have solve it?
for me it was the biggest challenge, cause im not sooo good with speed-playing. after i realize how i have to do/how its easier for me

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(there are two possibilities to manage to stand at right place if the darts comes from right or left hole)

i need about 20-30 fails.
if u have finished this, make sure u have saved standing this place before go on...i do not first time i finished the latern-riddle HEHE

When you say missing something? Do you mean

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the Ful rune, pickaxe, or something else? I found the zo rune - thanks, can't believe i missed it!

Lai: did you enter in the guild of mages using the teleport? Have you never entered from the door with the eye? You meet two door with an eye: passing the first one is simple; if you have passed the second one, the solution with the eye

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which appears and disappears is the same

. I've changed this in the 1.2 version: now you can enter in the guild only from the main door, so you have to solve firstly the puzzle with the door and the eye. If you have other problems write me in pm, I'll send the solution (but only why in your version are no clues).
It's strange: to solve the puzzle in the room with the rat you need a rune that you find only if you: solve the boiler riddle; or enter in the inner laboratory by I pit at the end of the guild; which one is your case?
The treasure riddle is difficult and, maybe, you have lost it; but it's only secondary...
In the Hieronymus' house there is a

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secret laboratory with a rune and the read magic scroll

You don't have enough money to buy the vorpal, it's intentional: you can find it later inside the tower.
The lantern riddle is quite simple, I've added every kind of clues to solve it; in an earlier version of the game there wasn't any help and you need to use the compass to know the correct direction

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(nord, sud, east, west instead the number of lanterns)

Paul: the puzzle in the guild of priest is the hardest in this part;

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you need the bones and the rain to solve it, magic seeds are only a help.

the solution is written in many scrolls you meet there, above all that you find in the

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altar of vi.

edit:

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the rune in the secret laboratory is DES

money: good! getting the

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pickaxe

is hard.
Maybe you have missed the

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DES

rune: with it you can use the

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read magic spell and read

all the wall messages inside the guild. They are very helpfull to solve the puzzles.

I'm just stuck at the RAT - I entered from the guild chamber though - not through the main entrance!

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However I destroyed the moving eye, have a magic box, coin, rotten cheese and the on rune. Is there another rune i'm missing? Did i not solve the riddle by destorying the boiler?

No, if so it would be a dead end in some cases... Where did you find the

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magic box? If you have destroyed the eye, you have the solution to the boiler

edit: the rat puzzle is similar to the

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initial puzzle (the prison)

; you need also the

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IR rune...

Had managed to solve rat puzzle before checking back, nice one - it's hard unless you have all the right runes! Not really sure what to do next, I killed the screamers (right of the stone golem) not sure if that was correct - as now i've opened the door behind where they were not sure how to progress - all directions unfortunately have open pitts

Adamski wrote:Lai: did you enter in the guild of mages using the teleport? Have you never entered from the door with the eye? You meet two door with an eye: passing the first one is simple; if you have passed the second one, the solution with the eye

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which appears and disappears is the same

. I've changed this in the 1.2 version: now you can enter in the guild only from the main door, so you have to solve firstly the puzzle with the door and the eye. If you have other problems write me in pm, I'll send the solution (but only why in your version are no clues).
It's strange: to solve the puzzle in the room with the rat you need a rune that you find only if you: solve the boiler riddle; or enter in the inner laboratory by I pit at the end of the guild; which one is your case?
The treasure riddle is difficult and, maybe, you have lost it; but it's only secondary...
In the Hieronymus' house there is a

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secret laboratory with a rune and the read magic scroll

You don't have enough money to buy the vorpal, it's intentional: you can find it later inside the tower.
The lantern riddle is quite simple, I've added every kind of clues to solve it; in an earlier version of the game there wasn't any help and you need to use the compass to know the correct direction

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(nord, sud, east, west instead the number of lanterns)

Paul: the puzzle in the guild of priest is the hardest in this part;

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you need the bones and the rain to solve it, magic seeds are only a help.

the solution is written in many scrolls you meet there, above all that you find in the

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altar of vi.

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the rune in the secret laboratory is DES

hmh...at which way i start the mage guild...i think it was with teleporter. but im sure i was there normal way, cause i have get the "zo" rune from there.
i remember there was nothing else to do for me, and it gives a one-way way to it ( i think this are the riddle that i nomarly to have to do first, but havent no idea, so i go via teleporter).
i dont found the secret about hieronymus house, i found a special dagger but dont know what to do with, and i have still his bones.
the latern riddle arent easy.... its easy to understand but (for me) not easy to do

for the rat-riddle i need the

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"ir" rune

i pickt up at the room with many alcoves and scrolls telling me the spells. i also get the

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"on" rune

from here, and could escape. if i go NOW in this area, its a dead-end for me.i think i was trying all pits above..the boiler riddle arent solved yet.
if i read it right what ure talking about the treasure-riddle, its lost if i make the wrong at the

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smaller/biger sreamer riddle

, i spend much time at.but i killt

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the original trapped sreamer first) hehe

The boiler room is not a dead end. You must

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use the torch and blind the eye that appears randomly, after use the lever;

Adamski wrote:No, if so it would be a dead end in some cases... Where did you find the

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magic box? If you have destroyed the eye, you have the solution to the boiler

edit: the rat puzzle is similar to the

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initial puzzle (the prison)

; you need also the

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IR rune...

are u sure? i dont test it, but if u make this riddle while using a

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fire-damage bashable door u could also take a fire-bomb which getting after the latern-riddle at the thief-guild. if u use a fly-over trigger acivatet with fireball this way dont work

Ok, good idea. The essential part of this riddle is not the

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fireball

but the

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cheese

, and for the riddle in the screamer room it is the

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teleport

. I think it's better if a player can

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bash the door using also a ful bomb

.

Adamski wrote:The boiler room is not a dead end. You must

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use the torch and blind the eye that appears randomly, after use the lever;

the boiler room are another one for me...the room i speak about have a door which maybe open the boiler room (and i think this works 1x for me so i could escape with the runes).
but i dont mean death-end like the game mechanic dont work (if i think i found this i tell u), i mean that i have no ideas how to escape and so save first if i want to test a new idea...= i talk about a "lai-only-for-this-moment-dead-end"
the clue with

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the torches ...i should test it for alone...cause i was wondering why at this deep places are torches: no player will use them. and cause i thought this im unhappy about myself i dont realize the relationship between a torch <> eye and also the magic box

edit:
ah, ok i wonder about teleporter... as i read the

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cheese scroll and see the rat i know what to do

edit2:

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know it cause the start of the game

but this doesnt matters cause i was very impressed of the very conclusive and good atmosphare...and im a player who need sometimes a fast solved riddle
hehe

The

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magic box

won't be in the 1.2 version (the reason is in a riddle inside the tower) and you won't be able to open the

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golem-wasp rooms

; the function of these rooms is another and is linked to the

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destruction of the boiler: this situation should be a lethal trap avoidable using the wits.

another check -

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in the sewers next to the main castle, I have gone through the first 3 doors, managed to open the next two (where the exit ladder is). I also managed to get across to the room with the Rat, with the gate closing behind me. I have a feeling the 2nd door closing (when i pass through the first one) is suposed to prevent you from entering, but was i just too quick???

In the 1.2 version the door closes one step before, so nobody can pass it. The rest of the sewers is accessible only from inside the tower. If you pass that door you are trapped.

Not a bad day so far, got the Priest clan key, and had my hands on the Mage key.

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Getting the Ir rune and the Clan key out past the golems is extrememly difficult! Can the golems be killed? Also seems a couple of ways you can dead end.

Also can you tell me where the Vi rube is? Just can't find it!

Thanks!

Woohoo, got all 4 clan pieces! But if I am going to be locked in the tower I need that vi rune lol.

i now have destroyed the boiler, used the

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ruby key

to get the

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clan key

..
but cant open the door with chest and the teleporter behind.

Nah, neither could I!

Lai, I don't suppose you can remember where the Vi rune is?

if i would, i have told u.
i havent the vi rune yet too..
i now will take a look at hieronymus house,the priest guild and the crypt.
i still have the bones from hieronymus and khoran

where do u put khornas bones into?

Yes Paul, the golems

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can be killed, but it is not necessary

: it's possible

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avoid

the fight with a simple action.
A suggestion: before entering into the tower, find out where the VI rune is hidden.

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VI is the rune of...?

Lai, everywhere are a lot of secret places, closed doors and bonus. They aren't complulsory for the main quest: I've added to improve the replayability.

hmh...i now put korahns bones into

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the altar of vi and a skeleton appears who walked around. first time he was killt by golem...so i thought i have to change his way walking with the movable lights, but at second time he go upstairs and go outside

I killed them anyway lol - sold the clubs at a nice profit.

Vi is the rune of water, hmmm. Plenty of that about!

i would say vi are the rune of

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life

and to also i think to get it, its something about the

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altar of vi,and koharns bones...to get this rune at priest guild make sense

but dont know how

Paul, it's important: because you are playing with the 1.0 version, buy a lot of food before going into the tower. Your party might get bigger.

I have one of the later versions as I restarted.

Still not sure about Vi - will have another look about then I'll have to ask again lol.

If you had played one of the later versions, it would have been impossible

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killing the golems

in the guild of priests. Really strange...