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again I've had it happen. I threw two daggers and an arrow at a screamer and only got 1 dagger and 1 arrow back.

I can confirm this - I've lost a throwing star that I threw at a screamer. It was never returned. I think this bug may have been in there from the beginning, but it's difficult to be sure as one often forgets what has been chucked monster-ward (?) in the heat of battle...

Maybe GG wanted it this way? A small probability for thrown objects to break? In this case, there should have some junk left, I think - something like the rust- so the player won't believe he just aimed some interdimensional portal leading to the Void.

See I think that my last occurance of this was when duplicate objects went into a monster..

see there is a chance to stick or not when throwing an object. So perhaps it holds the information but only a value for each object type rather than each actual object. So throw two daggers in this case and they both stick it treats it as one dagger..

Just Theory here..

Objects are stored by a unique ID so it's not possible to be in the situation that you describe (although from the way you describe it, it sounds very plausible!)

I still havn't been able to reproduce this and after examining the various bits of code concerned (collision detection and monster death) can't see any way in which objects could be lost.

Can someone categorically prove that this is really happening?

Could it be linked perhaps to what they drop when dead or how much they can carry?

is there a limit?

If you put in three objects into a screamer and it was only carrying 2 slices will it replace those with two of the new items and then the third would go into oblivion or do they have unlimited hold capcity?

They can carry 8 items, *not* including any instrinsic ones (so a screamer might, say, drop 10 things, 8 objects and 2 screamer slices). What you've said before seems to be way below this limit (and in any case, if the limit is reached then objects will always "bounce off" a monster rather than be lost).

Could it be possible that the extra objects are being allocated ANY position when they drop, so an arrow might be dropped in a north/south/east/west or central position, which would be invisible and irretrievable on a floor tile?

Fixed for V0.16