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I was sure that I'd seen this as an earlier topic, but I couldn't find it in any of the places that made sense to me. If it did exist elsewhere, I apologize for the duplication...

Which puzzles in DM gave you the most trouble, when you first played it? Which were your favorites?

For me, I remember having the most incredible difficulty figuring out the first room on the skeleton/beholder level - not the Riddle Room (that was easy), but the room with the floor plate, the pit, the switch and the teleport field. I knew I could get in there, but I spent probably more than a day of game time trying everything I could think of: stripping off all the equipment to weigh down the floor plate, throwing objects, running as fast as I could (for the longest time I thought that you had to slip in under the portcullis as it was closing; I just needed to be a little bit faster...) and so forth. The rest of that time I wandered through the five previous levels, trying to see if I could find another iron key somewhere to get into the rest of the level.

This was back in 1986; there was a huge ST community posting e-mail messages from all over the world about DM. Eventually I gave up and looked through the logs to see if anyone else had had this problem...when I finally read how to do the puzzle, I felt like a complete idiot. <sigh>

Not really a puzzle, but...I remember the first timeI found a hidden/passable wall. It was on the worm level, and I was chasing a worm down the hall away from the screamer room (the worms would often run when you hit them with thrown objects). Suddenly, the worm disappeared! "What?" I was amazed. "Where did it go?" I had half convinced myself that I had killed the worm when I realized that my last throwing star had vanished as well. Well, I jumped into that wall and got a big surprise from the worm waiting for me. Well, a couple of chops and vi bros later, and my party spent the rest of their time in the dungeon cracking their noses on every wall...I have a friend who had to stop playing DM because he would jerk every time his party ran into a wall. It was too tough on his back.

Seeker19

I think the two that always got me were both in "treasure stores" was the room full of teleporters, I spent ages going back to the beginning of that room, still havent quite got the hang of it now. And teh room full of pits, I could always get to one side, but never the other.



They were the most frustrating that I remember.

Yeah the teleporter room always bugged me as well. What I did not discover for a long time were the various monster generators and since I'm basically the careful player type I often spent long times going forward, fighting the monsters while retreating step by step, going forward again only to find a new monster... and so on. (Worm level, Spiders on the knight level and so on). That was in the old days before I started thinking and discovered DMute - that little jewel explained quite a lot ;o)

Regards, PitD

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/vie ... ght=#25449

And

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61

Well, the solution to the teleporters on Level 5 is in my book, so I have no problems there. However, the solution it gives to the pits is wrong (though I don't remember having much of a problem on the Atari), so I have to spend a while figuring out how to get from the first room across to the second room.
But I can't remember if there ever used to be any puzzles that really bugged me. Remember I was about five or six at the time...I can remember having some fun with the assorted puzzles on Level 3 ("Hit and Run", for example), but never really found anything particularly HARD that I can remember...
In CSB I can remember helping my dad with Supplies for the Quick - he'd maneouver with the arrow keys, and I'd have my hand on the mouse ready to grab something. Sinec we've downloaded RTC, I can do this bit easily enough myself, but I believe I still ended up helping Dad with it in the same way as before, lol

Lunever, I find it absolutely hilarious that I couldn't find my own post from 2000!

Thanks,

Seeker19

NP, Seeker. Just go to the memberlist, choose a member and select "show all posts of XXX"

What did you want to point out with the links above, lunever? Just linking to your previous answers or some hidden connection there? *confusion*

Regards, PitD

PitD: No. Seeker complained that he didn't find his own post anymore, and I pointed out that it is very easy to do so by using the options of the memberlist.

Thanks; I know how to look for posts by a particular user. This bulletin board software is pretty robust.

What I find funny is that I didn't know that one of the previous versions of this topic WAS posted by me, back in 2000. Thanks again, Lunever, for pointing it out: I had a big laugh.

Seeker19

...and what's more, the software is smart enough to log a person off when they aren't active for a while!

Now, if only this user was smart enough to check that before clicking "submit"...



Seeker19

Sometimes those buggers outsmart us... getting too used to something normally results in seemingly "stupid" errors just because you overlooked something obvious - otherwise 80% of support personnel would not be needed

Regards, PitD