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15 years old mystery

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2002 1:51 pm
by Lyverbe
I don't know how many times I've played Dungeon Master. I know all the creatures, traps, puzzles and spells. But, there is this scroll that I never understood its meaning and it has always been a mystery to me. I've always had a printout of this scroll in my wallet, hoping that I'd get an answer one day.

The scroll says,
"Grynix
Ernum quey ki
Skebow rednim
U os dey
Wefna enocarn
Aquantana".

Anyone knows? Don't ask me where I found this scroll, I don't remember :)

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 1:09 am
by Sundeep Nandra
You sure that isn't in CSB? Just..I've gone through every single square of Dungeon Master on the Atari ST and the PC..both..and never come across the scroll.

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 2:46 am
by Slick
It's possible you have corrupted files in your game. I've never seen that scroll, and all of the scrolls I have found have either real words or the spell symbol names in them.

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2002 1:56 pm
by beowuuf
It's available in the Atari version of CSB, in a chest somewhere outside the knight's room off of the 'No fireballs' area, I believe.
No one has ever figured it out, or said if there was anything to figure out, but it's not your imagination. You can download CSB 4 windows, view the main mini.dat dungeon file through DMute, and see the area (5, 29, 8)

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2002 1:25 pm
by Lyverbe
*Phew* I'm not crazy then :)

I was sure it was Dungeon Master, but perhaps I was wrong.

Thanks!

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 7:43 am
by Dennis Walker
Sounds like something either Mikey or Andy would have come up with....probably Mike. Not sure where he is at these days.

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2002 10:30 pm
by ChristopheF
Dennis, do you think you could get in touch with them (or at least Andy Jaros) and ask if they have any clue about this old "Mystery of the CSB gibberish scroll".

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2002 10:20 am
by Gambit37
It's in hand...

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:39 pm
by Lyverbe
Ever got an answer?

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 2:14 pm
by dermott
Dear Lyverbe,
The scroll you mention is a red herring. I seem to remember that in some obscure copy of amiga format or some such magazine that the scroll was placed within the atari version to allow the entry of the magic map in the amiga version that followed, the programming was easier for subsequent games. That is C.S.B. I hope this helps.

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 4:04 pm
by Lunever
To have one normal scroll-item more or less does not make it easier to implement the magic map functionality in the program code. I do not think, that this assumption has any truth.

Re: 15 years old mystery

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2003 6:34 pm
by Gambit37
As I said when this came up in another thread, that is complete rubbish. The magic Map was added in Amiga CSB because FTL received complaints from ST CSB players that the game was too hard!