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One of the editors needs a name change

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:42 pm
by Gambit37
It seems that both George's and Andy's editors have become known as RTCEd.

One of them needs a name change to avoid confusion!

Probably Andy's should have the change considering that it's logical to associate RTCEd with George's RTC.

You may have seen some posts I made about a future RTC editing website I'd like to build. It's called "Constructor of Chaos". Perhaps this would be a good name for the editor? Though it ends up being COC for short which might be a bit silly... ;)

Edit: Hope you don't mind me editing your post for a poll Gambit! - B.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:43 pm
by PicturesInTheDark
It might then be associated with "Call of Cthulhu" :wink:

Regards, PitD

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:54 pm
by Gambit37
Ah yes, a small problem too.

Any one else have suggestions? Andy, would you actually mind changing the name of the editor?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:03 pm
by beowuuf
DeCTR?
worked for DivX/XviD

RTCBuild

Return To Construction (RTCo)

EZ-RTC

AEd (Andy's Editor)

Or, of course, RTCEd is Andy's, and the pre-packaged one is somgthign like 'the OPE' (original packaged editor)

RTCxEd

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:33 pm
by chburbe
Totally agree

What about RTC xtended Editor --> RTCxEd ??

Regards
Beat :wink:

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:05 pm
by cowsmanaut
how about (RTCed revision: "Andy") ;)

to be quite honest though I half expected GG to call his RTCMute

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:07 pm
by andyboy_uk
I was thinking

Chaos Forge

I had a feeling I would change the name before release so I have installed any reference to the program name in a string that I can change easily.

Cows: Fancy making a nice new splash image for me (could be wider but not much taller)? I love the style of the shield on this site.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:09 pm
by andyboy_uk
As a side note to that, it might be best to rename the "RTC Editor Development" forum to "Chaos Forge Development" (or whatever it ends up being called) and change the RTCEditing forum to be both the RTCEd and RTC Editing forum. To distinguish the requests, etc.

If anyone can come up with a better name, Im all ears :)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:17 pm
by cowsmanaut
names been used.. however, nothing against it being used here. Plus it's cool :)

cheers

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:20 pm
by andyboy_uk
Ok if its been used, fair play, Im open to all and any suggestions.

Fire away, personally Im not in favor of anything too technical, something like dE-CTR (unless it spelt something cool) just doesnt make much sense. Maybe Chaos Forge didnt either.

Acronyms welcome. :D

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:40 pm
by beowuuf
half of mine weren't serious..umm....i think one was : )

Chaos's Forge is cool, so three votes for that!
Actually, get a few more suggestions then change this to a voting topic anyway

Probably the only serious three so far would be RTCxEd, RTCBuild and Chaos Forge/Chaos's Forge ...CoC too, perhaps?


Any others?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:55 pm
by andyboy_uk
Constructor of Chaos is a pretty cool name, but Im not too keen on the acronym ;) Its a little too close to ... well... you see what I mean.

I wouldnt mind a name you could pronounce, even as an acronym if anyone has got any. Something like AMOS (AMiga Operating System). But not that of course. Peoples names might work.

CCK (Chaos Construction Kit?)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:25 pm
by Gambit37
I like Chaos Forge too -- you could condense it down to CHAF!

Once you've settled on a name, I'm happy to modify the topic titles on this forum to reflect it.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:34 pm
by andyboy_uk
Not a bad idea there Gambit. I will leave this running for a few days while I think of some more as well. .

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:10 pm
by Paul Stevens
Names like 'Chaos Forge' don't really help the
uninitiated to associate the editor and the
compiler/game engine. I would much prefer
something that had the letters 'RTC' in it.

RTCEditor is certainly the most obvious name.
Is George going to maintain his version of the
editor? I had the feeling it was just a kind of
temporary make-do thing to break the editing ice.
If he plans to abandon it, perhaps he will agree to
let you have the name. Else RTCBuilder. RTCGenerator.
RTCHelper.

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:51 pm
by Gambit37
I don't know if George intends to support his own editor or not. It might make sense for that one to keep the RTCEd/Editor name.

I understand what you mean about Chaos Forge et al not being immediately associated with the RTC name. But look at the confusion over all the DM tools: DMBuild, CSBuild, CSBEdit, DMEdit, -- it does get a bit much.

One would need to be more specific in the naming for your suggestion to make sense. For example, RTC Map Maker might work better than RTCEditor. I mean, after all, editing is about modifying something already created right? Andy's 'editor' is primarily a map builder, so perhaps it's better to focus on that in the name?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:42 pm
by andyboy_uk
Andy's 'editor' is primarily a map builder, so perhaps it's better to focus on that in the name?
Not for long my friend, not for long. Muhahahaahahah (Diabolical laughs)

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 6:12 pm
by beowuuf
I'm guessign that RTC will always come with its own basic editor so anyone findign his site can instantly have all aspects of the game, unless Andy's one becomes part of the official package...
RTC:CF for now?

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 7:29 pm
by Paul Stevens
RTCreator

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 9:34 pm
by copperman
How about "Infinity Creator" after the guys that made the original FTL. :D

Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:10 pm
by cowsmanaut
Chaos Forge is a fine title I think. Chaos is directly related to RTC if you are not thinking in terms of the acronym. It' is "return to chaos" after all. Chaos being the dungeon and the lord in a way. It is lord chaos who made the dungeons and a forge is where you make things out of nothing.

To me it makes perfect sense and as such I'll be starting the new splash page as suggested.. as soon as I can that is. :)

moo

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 6:59 pm
by PicturesInTheDark
I'd go for Chaos Forge as well - very impressive name and looking at the various editors, extract tools ... of DM and CSB the names really were not helping too much in a way of defining differences for newcomers by the choice of name... if the editor itself works well, and so far it has shown a lot of progress, the name will stick.

Although I'm still convinced a joint effort (one editor) would be better in any case, because after a while one of the two will gain overweight... and the other one will slowly die in terms of further development... but this is not up to me to decide.

Regards, PitD

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:25 pm
by Gambit37
Have you made a final decision on this Andy?

It looks like Chaos Forge is the preferred option. I think it has a cool ring to it. And like PitD says, even though it may not have RTC in the title, people will soon become accustomed to it. The half-Life editor was called Worldcraft and that seemed OK by people... :)

Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:34 pm
by Gambit37
Heh, I just discovered that you proposed this (Chaos Forge) way back last year Andy! Take a look at this thread, your sixth post: :-)

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:04 pm
by Lunever
I agree with Cows that RTCMute would be a good name for George's Editor.

Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 7:15 pm
by Gambit37
Not sure about RTCMute. The 'mute' thing came about because DMute couldn't actually create anything from scratch, it could only 'mutate' existing dungeons.

Clearly, GG's RTC editor can do a lot more than that...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:20 pm
by WolfHeart
I agree I think George's should remain just as it is...

Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:53 pm
by copperman
WHy not RTCute :D

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:30 pm
by Lunever
LOL Kaspian, don't do that. I'll probably be unable from now on to think of RTCEd without naming it RTCute.. ;-)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:55 pm
by beowuuf
CCF - Chaos's Cute forge Image