Dungeon Master Forum

I'm interested in finding out how many DM type games there are; games that use the same type of tile/step gameplay (not free movement such as Nexus or Legends of Valour). Some of those listed below only use this method for part of the game, but I think they should still count.

This is what I've come up with so far:

Dungeon Master
Chaos Strikes Back
Theron's Quest
Skullkeep (DM2)

Black Crypt
Captive
Liberation
Eye of the Beholder 1,2,3
Knightmare
Dungeon Hack
Bloodwych
Amberstar, Ambermoon

These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many others.

Lands of Lore, I remember it doing smoother step movement than DM2 for some reason

Ishar 1, 2 & 3

(Almost completely set outdoor - Quite a good game really... )

Ed:

Ultima 1 (The dungeon sequences)

I'm not sure about the other ultima games, i think they're all top-down ultima 2-5, quasi isometric 6-8 and 3rd person in 9.

I kept seeing a post about a game called Hired guns with a "(Dungeon master like game)" beside it on Amiga net. This was back when I was still trying to find new games for my amiga before I went PC.. so about 5 years ago or so I guess.
found this link.. just now.. and I think I played the game. It was step wise movement like DM but the graphics were prerenderd raytrace images so when you moved it was super smooth. even on turns

http://www.efd.lth.se/~f98ani/amiga/hiredguns/

moo

How could I have forgotten Hired Guns!!!??? That was a fantastic game, superb sound on the Amiga and great Music too. I recently sold my copy on eBay... *sniff*

Lol, i was away to type that very comment when i noticed your post gambit! Lemmings never seemed so scary as after that game! It also featured object damage from water and attacks I recall. Not to mention the independant party movement!

I'm also slapping my head about ishar 2, too

Anybody have downloads for Ishar? I've never played them and can't be arsed to look for valid links....

There are copies @ http://www.the-underdogs.org/game.php?name=Ishar+3 (Ishar 1 & 2 links nr bottom of page) Underdogs.org is fairly slow, and is a bit neurotic about its downloads, and there are TOO many pop-ups... but there's loads there!!

Ishar 3 was the one i've played most, i think it's the best of the 3 by all accounts.

I only played Ishar 2 on the amiga, sorry

"Your foundation belongs to that having us completely"
I babel-washed it...it seems to translate perfectly backwards and forwards now : )
The original should be obvious!

I had the weirdest amiga DM like game, in french i think. It came with several other games on the one disk, but what was it called? Something starting with M or N, like Nashta or something. That was one odd game, you moved half a step foward at a time and the monsters even stranger, were weird eyeball things and there was some woman who walked around. Unfortunately, the game crashed all the time, so i never got very far in it. I got to look this up on the net if i ever remember the name.

Another you've missed: Crystal Dragon

I only ever got to play the demo which came on Amiga Format or some such cover, but seemed pretty nice game.

That's right, it was called Nasharan.

some warning for people who would like to play Ishar series:
save your games a lot and switch between 3 or 4 differente saved game files : there are lots of unlogical/story bugs, especially in Ishar 1 & 2...

Crystal Dragon was a fantastic game for the Amiga, and was made by the same team as Black Crypt. Full version is available with owners permission from this site:

http://skyscraper.fortunecity.com/terab ... nload.html

Well worth trying if you have an Amiga emulator. Prettier than DM, but ultimately lacked the game play.

what about stonekeep?
quite ok to complete 1 or 2 times...

With ishar it let you simply create as many saved game files as you wanted, so yes, i always made progressive saves
I don't remember 2 being that bad, but there were occasions when you would get trapped, either in a dungeon, or worse with food!
If need food to regain stamina unless you have the right magic spell - and so no stamina, no attacks. the city was easy to get trapped in for that

Towers
http://atariforce.free.fr/stga06uk.htm

Abandonned Places 1 and 2

Would'nt Might & Magic 3 and up fit the same type?

How about Wizardry? I never finished 'Crusaders of the
Dark Savant' but I think I remember that is was in this
class. Also at least one of the Wizardry series on NES.

Err, does good old Bard's Tale count?

Paul Stevens wrote:How about Wizardry? I never finished 'Crusaders of the
Dark Savant' but I think I remember that is was in this
class. Also at least one of the Wizardry series on NES.

Ooh yeah.Very much, I think. Just the battles are not real time, but who cares...

Crusaders of the Dark Savant is one huge game. I never got very far in it. But in Bane of the Cosmic Forge I managed to get about 75% through... Darn hard games, but not enough addictivity really, IMHO. So I always gave up on them.

Along time ago on a desktop in my home I had towers for the PC. I can't remember if it was a demo or the complete version. I had the demo version for the Atari ST and was about to purchase it directly via Email in FidoNet when something happened and I never got it. a year or so later I got it for the PC but alas like I said I can't remember if it was the demo first 3 levels or not. I seen Towers II for Windows 95/98 is available for I think 14.99 so I am going to buy it. I never got the Falcon version of the game to work, it was on disks I got with the Falcon when we purchased it. I am hoping the PC version is as good as the Falcon version was suppose to be. If anyone has a working version of the PC Towers or PC Captive I would love to get a link to where I can get them. all the ones I have tried have resulted either in broken links or as in the case of Captive the last 3 times loaded but would not work VGA only CGA YUKKKKKKKKKKK!

never got Knightmare

I put a copy of PC Captive on my free webspace. It works with DOSBOX.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matt_hill/CaptivePC.rar

I DLed it and will give it a try. Thank you