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How to make walls that can be destroyed?

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:13 pm
by Ian Clark
I was wondering how do you go about making a wall that can be destroyed by weapon blows like in Conflux II (Iaido says this wall will crumble...).

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 6:47 pm
by beowuuf
That used to be a case of a trick wall, the right floor graphics corresponding to wall graphics, and a few chested creatures that could be killed sitting on the pressure pads - originally this was a rock monster, and given the final debris I believe it is still a rock monster and no new mechanics...I could be wrong : )

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 7:03 pm
by Gambit37
Yeah, it's a rock monster cos it fights back and can poison you which is a bit silly for a wall...

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:23 pm
by Zyx
Yes, it's a trick wall with a monster on it, with teleporters keeping it prisonner.
The monster is stepping on pressure pad that would remove the trick wall if stepped off... which means killing the monster (a rockpile as everybody already guessed).
With the attack filter and the DSA, it is now possible to disable the damage from the monster. (done in confluxii k)

Once you've managed this basic mechanism you can add some flavour messing with the decorations: if the monster carries a decoration (pressure pad) like a crack on the wall, and another monster, then upon its death, the decoration appears, and the second monster is released, so the pressure pad removing the wall is till stepped on.
You can add several decorations succeeding one after the other this way.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:37 pm
by zoom
Just a note:
Danger of endlessly increase of levels by standing in front of a non damaging monster
doing warcry or whatever, as long as you do not kill it.
(monster is everything that is no giggler, because giggler do not give xtra exp.)

I do not know if facing does matter;
if so, players could face the wall(or monster) and turn, jab the crap out of thin air and get bonus xp.

this has to be tested, though.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 2:26 pm
by Zyx
A non damaging monster won't give extra xp, since the xp is doubled during 4 seconds after being hit by a monster, I think.

However, warcrying against a monster is more efficient than against the air...
So yes, you could train with warcrying. But Mother Nature foresaw this cheat and added a tendency to boredom in the human mind for repetitive tasks.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 3:05 pm
by zoom
Well, at least a nice possibility for people who just want to level up.
It´s boring, but sometimes it is fun nevertheless!
"Just one more rank :twisted: " leveling up for the sake of it
easy- esp. at lower levels.
Maybe not worth bothering. Warcry = sth. like legal cheat ..lame but effective

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:56 pm
by Paul Stevens
tendency to boredom in the human mind for repetitive tasks.
A small weight on the 'warcry' key. Then go to dinner or whatever
while your character gains levels.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 5:05 pm
by Zyx
Another proof that boredom, this gift of Mother Nature, led the human kind to great inventions.

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 6:46 pm
by beowuuf
But why would you sit staring at a wall warcrying or go have food when the rest of Conflux II is so frickin' impressive!

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:12 pm
by cowsmanaut
I sat at a door throwing rocks and daggers for an hour once to build everyones ninja levels and then proceeded for annother hour to make potions to get the preist levels up..2 hours devoted to not playing the game.. but doing inane and repetative tasks.. just for a few crummy levels..

yes... I had no life,

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:31 pm
by beowuuf
Yeah, I spent countless hours leveling up in the rat area to find out if anythign cool happened at Archmaster once...but you know, I read and stuff while doing it - plus CDTV - could flick to TV while sleeping : )

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 7:57 pm
by linflas
cowsmanaut wrote:yes... I had no life
i -have- no life : penciling bitmaps for wallitems and stairs and pits and whatever... didn't get out of my apartment for all the weekend !

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:55 pm
by cowsmanaut
well, you see I'm not willing to adimit I still have no life.. but yeah.. that's pretty much the case :P

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 11:30 am
by beowuuf
I do have one! It's just...you know...fallen down the back of the sofa somewhere...