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my brain is confused. I want to do a tutorial. how? (CSBwin)
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:43 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
Well, I wanted to make a tutorial for if guests come to my house, I can show them how to play with it. How? I also have a guest preview, where you can't save or descend from level 2. This is in CSBWin. So how should I do this tutorial?
What else am I supposed to type?
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:16 pm
by zoom
The best way would be to learn a bit of html (hyper text markup language).
Do the TUTORIAL with that.
It is not that difficult, fairly easy with a bit of practice/routine. Maybe you
already know some?(actually you do know some of it, even if you do not know yet!)
The hard part would be to gather the information, divide the tutorial in
logical steps/parts, to leave unnecessary information out and to flawlessly
point out even difficult matters for the average dungeon builder.
Blah blah blah... all theory. Still awake?-/°^°\-
I hope I understood you right in that you´re aiming at doing a csbuild-tutorial for your guests ?
If you wanna show them the game, and how it is played, what it´s all about, i suggest making a recording with csbwin and show that to them instead.
Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 10:44 pm
by beowuuf
You could do an in-game tutorial simply with text pads on the floor I guess...
Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 4:36 am
by ADDF_Toxic
Actually, I thought about that, beo. I was trying to record. It went very slow for some odd strange and peculiar reason. I want to make a tutorial of the basic controls, practically a movie of the manual or something like that. It's too confusing with so many DM versions now.
But thanks
Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 9:11 am
by beowuuf
Combine them then - make a movie of you going around the dungeon, but have text pads so that it is explaining what you are doing as you are doing it (eg '4 spins me round left' etc or 'keys go into keyholes' etc.
The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle
Posted: Wed May 25, 2005 2:35 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
actually, I have a recording the screen program that lets me make bubbles. Controls are a bit different for different versions, eg) CSB Win has the 487956 for movement, or the arrows, but the side arrows have different controls. This is the part that is stumping me.
Oh, and try to get this quick b/c I only have a trial version.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:07 am
by ADDF_Toxic
beowuuf wrote:Combine them then - make a movie of you going around the dungeon, but have text pads so that it is explaining what you are doing as you are doing it (eg '4 spins me round left' etc or 'keys go into keyholes' etc.
The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle
Actually, I will do that. The screen recorder isn't recording it properly. But...can anyone tell me how to view this movie after I recorded it? Thanks.
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:50 am
by Paul Stevens
can anyone tell me how to view this movie after I recorded it?
Yes. I am sure that most anyone using this forum can
tell you that. Poking about in the forum itself may solve
your problem without even asking!
Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 3:48 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle
Beowuuf, you wrote that. I just read it again, and I don't understand what you're saying.
Posted: Mon May 30, 2005 3:07 pm
by beowuuf
The playback function isn't a video, it essentially plays the game again itself exactly how you played it and experienced it using the engine. At the end of the playback, it then simply stops, and the game is left running back in the same state as you stopped recording
So, you could have a recording of a dungeon where you walk over a pressure pad saying 'this is how you fight a mummy', y7ou fight a mummy, walk over a pressure pad saying 'now your turn', walk over to the next mummy, and stop recording.
The person watching it would then watch exactly what you did, and then the playback file would stop and the engine would basically start the game beside the mummy - no need for them to restart, the tutorial flows perfectly into the game!
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:22 am
by ADDF_Toxic
I understand that it is exactly how I saw it, and that's why I decided to do this way. But I still don't understand...
At the end of the playback, it then simply stops, and the game is left running back in the same state as you stopped recording
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 7:37 am
by beowuuf
The playback stops, releases the mouse, and the game is left running as if you had pressed 'resume' from the dungeon menu.
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:07 am
by Gambit37
You can carry on playing from the point at which the playback stops.
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 10:52 am
by beowuuf
That is a much better way of putting it
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:05 pm
by Gambit37
I know!

Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 2:35 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
Oh, so I can quit and still make it recording? Is that what you're saying?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 3:26 pm
by Gambit37
No. Read it again:
You can carry on playing from the point at which the playback stops.
Have you actually tried doing it yet? It sounds like you haven't.
The process is something like this:
1) Start a new CSB Win game and set it to record
2) Stop your game at some point - that is, save and quit (this automatically stops it recording) OR stop the recording by unticking the option on the menu
3) Playback your recording -- it will play the game exactly as you just recorded it. (There are
instructions on how to playback your recording)
4) When the playback finishes, CONTROL RETURNS TO THE PLAYER and you can carry on playing from the point the recording finished
Make sense now?
Posted: Tue May 31, 2005 11:42 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
Ok, that is very interesting. I understood the first 3 steps, just not the fourth thing
I have recorded, trying to get Chaos to stop illegal opperationing my game. Never played it back though.
Actually, that inspired me to do something else for my tutorial...something that I was thinking...but I didn't quite like it, now I do.

Seeya
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:10 pm
by ADDF_Toxic
Aha! Part 1 and 3 finished, just need to do part 2 (I did part 3 first)