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First DM?
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:20 pm
by Sophia
If this topic has been addressed somewhere, then sorry, it's something I'm curious about, though.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:22 pm
by beowuuf
Saw it for the very first time on the Atari, but played it properly firstly on the Amiga
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 9:27 pm
by Sera
first time on the amiga at the age of 2, i kept on calling the darc helm 'black helm' and lyte helm 'white helm', ah those were the days, i cant remember if i ever completed it then though o.o
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:01 pm
by PadTheMad
I used to watch my mum and dad play it on the Amiga. It was one of my dad's favourite games ever, maybe that's why I love it so much

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:28 pm
by Suule
I'm the only one that started with the DM PC??? >.> <.<
I still have the diskette with it.
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:29 pm
by Trantor
I got my Amiga for Christmas 1990 and played DM on it shortly after. I was 12 and came from the C64, and DM was the first game I saw that could be played completely with the mouse. That fascinated me a lot, as well as the fact the game was in German - it was very unusual to see a game translated into my native language back then. After playing it for 5 minutes, I knew that this was something special. Call it cheesy, but I felt that this would be a game I would never forget for the rest of my life. The only other games where I felt this (and always to a lesser extent) were Amberstar, Tomb Raider and Resident Evil. For me, it is still the best game ever, and it always will be.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:21 am
by Ameena
I first played DM on the Atari, way back in erm, the late 80s, whenever it came out I suppose (born in '84 myself), and it was cool then. Ahh, back in those days it'd take months to finish such games as that. Months. And CSB was even worse of course

. I remember when my dad was playing it, doing Supplies for the Quick, he'd navigate using the keyboard (usually used mouse for everything) and I'd have my hand on the mouse in the right position to click whenever he passed an alcove

.
We still have the Atari but the DM disk is fooked now - you load it up and get as far as the dungeon doors opening, but then it loads for ages and just freezes up

. Oh well, at least I can play it on here now whenever I like and without the added annoyance of having to swap disks and wait for aaaages every time I want to save or load

.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:16 am
by PadTheMad
I've got loads of Amiga floppies with DM saves on. All written in my beloved father's hand, with a brief description of where he was and what was going off. The best ones were (if I can remember) 'Aaaaargh - flying snakes!' and 'THE DRAGON!!!!!!!!!!!' Ah the days of one save per disk...
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:27 am
by beowuuf
lol, yes, i had like 14 ...probably none work now
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:31 am
by PadTheMad
Should really blow the dust off the ol' Amiga and fire it up for nostalgia value! Man, I really should have brought it to uni with me

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:45 am
by beowuuf
Mine is in aberdeen, and it's not the original one, it's an A600 I bought for cheap too : (
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:51 am
by Gambit37
I didn't have a home computer, came from quite a poor family (well, not so much poor as money-less due to my dad spending it all on alcohol but that's another story...). My mum (who is mad -- great start in life eh?) brought us up as devout catholics and when I was 13/14 I had to become confirmed. We had a new priest at the time who was a bit of a computer nut, and after the confirmation lessons, the boys in the group were allowed to play on his computer. This was a C128, but it was shortly replaced by an expanded Amiga 1000, and with the two machines he eventually started a computer club. We'd all go round and play whatever games he'd bought, and I remember the one we played a lot was Daley Thomson's track and field and also Xenon. The club didn't last long and I ended up using the computer a lot by myself as I was also chief altar boy and would play on it after mass or when the priest went away and I would dog-sit for him. The game that I payed the most was obviously DM -- easily the best game I had ever seen at the time, and still my favourite to this day.
Eventually, the priest bought an A2000 or A1500, not sure, and gave me his A1000. I spent many more years playing DM, CSB, Captive, EOB etc. I bought Deluxe Paint and Octamed and started to draw graphics and make music for my own DM type game that I thought I would create. Like a lot of things I work on, I lacked the discipline to see it through....
Anyway, weird story huh? Eagle eyed readers will notice this isn't the story I have written on my sample DM Codex site. Frankly, I'm still uncomfortable about my childhood and my parents, so I wrote something that would appear more 'normal'. Jeez, this is turning in to therapy... sorry, I'll stopnow.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:46 am
by linflas
first played on atari st at 14, but i finished the game for the first time 2 years later !
i played CSB and completed it on my A1200 in the beginning of the 90's.
i tried also DM2 on amiga but i haven't completed it yet.
i also remember finishing Ishar 1 on Atari ST in the last years before i buy my A1200.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:13 pm
by George Gilbert
ST for me too...
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:39 pm
by zoom
I started to play DM on my brother ´s commodore AMIGA 500.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:04 pm
by Mindstone
Ah the old Amiga, I remember playing "Monkey Island 2" which needed 12 floppy disks for installation. Those were the days.
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:16 pm
by DragonsLover
I first played the game on the ST! Was a lot of fun! I remember what stressful moment I got when playing the game for the first time!

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:52 pm
by Sigi
I used to have a teacher in high school who was really laid back and nice,
and he was playing games (the teacher was playing computer games,
quite special back then!). So I approached him asking him what game
he likes most, and his reply was (obviously) "Dungeon Master". I must
have been 14 or 15 by then.
So I started playing the game. One of my computer buddies back then
already knew it and we did the pair thing (not what you're thinking

)
with maps and spells already finished -- in a way that is a bugger
because I never got to play DM the way it was meant to but it still was
a lot of fun. Especially because with two people in front of the screen
it's a lot more fun.
I started in '89 with a C=64 so no chance back then to play DM yet.
[Edit: I played the Amiga version and was very surprised when I saw
the ST "original" with it's comparably crappy graphics and lacking sound
effects -- but we Amigans were opposed to the ST users anyway, so this
was just about fair to them

]
--Sigi
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:47 am
by linflas
graphics are exactly the same between st and amiga if i remember well.
and st version came first, yahahaha ! that's the answer from an ST ex-activist

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:59 pm
by beowuuf
The graphics aren't exactly the same, little thigns liek the hand icon turning to blue on the atari so you cab't see items in the screen, etc
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:59 am
by JCG
I heard of Dungeon Master just a few months after its release, then read articles in magazines about this amazing game. The decision was immediate : I bought an Atari ST and DM, ...my first computer and my first game.
And...heuuuu...I got killed by the mummy at the beginning of level 1 the first time I played

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:51 am
by Tom Hatfield
So far I'm the only one who started on the SNES. It was a random rental thingy, and it quickly became one of my favorite SNES games. Personally, I think it's the best version. I'd go back to it, but man, I can't even imagine playing games without a mouse anymore.
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:58 pm
by sucinum
finally a draw between the best and the fanciest computer "back then".
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:12 pm
by Sophia
What? The Amiga was the best and the fanciest... what are you talking about?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:46 pm
by sucinum
blinded by 4096 colors

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:55 am
by ParuNexus
lets see here originally my brother went out to a computer shop and baught the atari version. back then we didn't even know aobut the "atari vs Amiga" fued, let alone amiga gaming. Yes I do still remember when computer shops sold atari here in america. for a long time i only played the first 2 levels(aka hall of champions and the next). We got rid the atari before I could win the worm level. I tihnk my brother beat it. I have a vague memory of someone finding and buying the PC version. it was then i beat it. I've never seen the physical copy of amiga one. however about 10 years ago while trying to get back into atari gaming. there was an amiga no DM disk\HD copy thou. I have no physical copies of DM anymore.
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:39 pm
by Adamo
I first played it on my amiga. I didn`t know that game before, I didn`t know that it even exists, untill one of my friends bought first number of polish "World of Computer Games" magazine and borrowed me it (dunno if this magazine exists yet).
Anyway, there was a huge article about DM (at least 8 pages), which was whole about Dungeon Master, with a lot of screenshots and a very good description with survival-guide. Funny, this game was allready antique - (it was in the beginning of nineties, I think - dont remember exactly and I dont have that magazine anymore). The article said, that DM was one of best games ever released, so I decided to get it!
And they were really right! The game is even today marvelous for me!
CSB was even better than DM, but I was just frustrated, when I saw the next part (DMII) - it had less climate, IMHO.
I was also playing games like EOB etc., but no one of them was such good as DM/CSB. It was a milestone in games history.
Over a year ago I found this site, wchich is still my favourite, but it took me ages to get know, what is where here or to learn how to use editors.
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:23 pm
by Froud
I bought an Atart St in the late 80s originally for the MIDI connection. So I could connect it to my music keyboard. (A feature sadly lacking on the feeble Amiga!)
I bought a few games for the ST memorably Wizball, Space Quest, Police Quest ,Gauntlet2, and Winter Olympics. Most memorable of all were Leisure Suit Larry and the great Captain Blood. This got me into buying ST Action the best ST games magazine around at that time. They had a columnist called "The Troll" who wrote brilliant features mainly on the early RPGs often text based.
He started to wax lyrical about a game that had crept up quietly into the games scene, of course Dungeon Master.
I bought the game and played it at a friends house for the first time. I remember we were impressed with the opening shot of the gates and when we opened it for the first time being captivated by looking down into the Dungeon. Despite the fact that nothing at all was going on ! "What the hells down there?" I remember asking. Little did I suspect the horrors it would unleash on me !
We played the game solidly for months mostly quite incompetently. I shudder to recall how many times we simply ran out of food on level 2! But to this day I have never enjoyed playing any game as much and probably never will again.
I was an enthusiastic participant in the ST v Amiga debates and nearly came to blows with a work colleague over it. How sad is that ! I seem to remember the early Amiga version of DM had a mapping facility. Most annoying and I had to argue that maps were for wimps and "real" players wouldn't lower themselves to using them.
I still have my original DM disc and several save discs. A little while ago I got an ST from Ebay and all the discs worked perfectly. Happy days.
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:04 am
by Suule
Hah! I battled with PC users defending my Amiga back in 199x! Those were the days...
Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:57 am
by Froud
Amigas Pfft. No MIDI ports and didn't you have to have a start up disc ?
Arrgggh Leave it, leave it. It was sad then and a bloody sight sadder 20 years on. Whats the matter with me !