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GAME: CSB.RTC reincarnation
Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:02 am
by K
I don't know if this has been reported before. If so, just ignore it.
Stat drop seems to be a bit drastic in CSB. In Amiga CSB (and CSBWin), the stat drop is around 6-9%. In CSB.RTC, all stats drop down to low 30s no matter what they start with!
I tried with various characters and all of their stats drop to low 30s making reincarnation worthless as they would never regain their former glory, let alone exceed it, thus defeating the purpose of reincarnation!
`K
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:15 pm
by George Gilbert
Fixed for V0.35
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:24 am
by Gambit37
Hmmm... not sure about that. Check with Paul Stevens and Beo about this, there has been significant discussion over what the figures actually are.
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:40 am
by beowuuf
I think the stat drop conversation was PaulH and PaulS actually...
Can't find it in the forum
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:30 am
by George Gilbert
The formula used by DM is different to CSB (this is obvious; DM keeps the main stats the same, CSB halves them). Therefore I've needed to make up my own formula to cope with both under the same engine.
I agree with Ks original comment that the additional stats all dropped to 30 in CSB, which wasn't my intention; this was definitely a bug. The formula RTC uses now gives sensible values...
...whether they're exactly the same as DM / CSB is another matter altogether!
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:36 am
by K
I don't know which version of CSB halves them, it's not the case with Amiga CSB. I loaded up WinUAE and tested a couple of characters, this is what I got:
stat : original value: reincarnated value: ~% of original
Demu Champion of Hssh
S : 68 : 62 : 91
D : 34 : 31 : 91
W : 30 : 31 :must have read wrong line
V : 56 : 52 : 93
AM: 38 : 36 : 95
AF: 64 : 56 : 88
Petal
S : 33 : 32 : 97
D : 66 : 60 : 90
W : 61 : 56 : 92
V : 62 : 57 : 92
AM: 64 : 58 : 91
AF: 34 : 30 : 88
It's apparant that it's not a fixed formula, but one which probably uses some other hidden variables. but in my version, it's nowhere near half. The average change seems to be 91% or original stat.
Anyone else can test these results. I'm using multi-lingual version 3.1 of CSB.
`K
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:46 am
by beowuuf
It halves your health, stamina and mana is what he meant
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:16 am
by zoom
I think each stat is divided by 1.2; don't know for sure if it is rounded up or down...
when you reincarnate, a random number is then added retroactively.
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 3:15 am
by K
Ahh, misunderstood there. The frame of mind I was in, I wasn't even considering health/stam/mana since I didn't see anything unusual about their drop in RTC.
`K