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What are FORCE and SKILL damage types?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 9:36 pm
by Sophia
They seem to be mostly identical to BLUNT, to me.

What do they do? How are they different?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 10:10 pm
by copperman
In DM attack types were tied to the "secret" stats weren't they?

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 11:35 pm
by George Gilbert
Blunt damage is determined by fighter level, strength and the weight of the weapon.

Sharp is the same as blunt but with a higher emphasis on the characters strength and lower on weight. It also can be used to destroy doors (if the damage is larger than the strength of the door).

Force is the same as blunt but can destroy doors as sharp

Skill is determined by ninja level and dexterity (weight isn't used at all)

Magic is determined by wizard level and wisdom (no weight again).

Ghost is identical to magic, but can hit ghosts

There isn't a physical attack method that uses priest skills but that's mostly because I couldn't think of a name for it :shock: If you think it would be useful let me know what to call it and I'll add it in.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:20 am
by Lunever
Hmm, I know it'd be a bit DnDish, but what about "Smite" for a priestly strike?

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:26 am
by Suule
There isn't a physical attack method that uses priest skills but that's mostly because I couldn't think of a name for it Shocked If you think it would be useful let me know what to call it and I'll add it in.
Banish

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 1:43 am
by copperman
So setting an object to blunt but with the ninja skill radio active would give experience in both ?

How about "Evoke" for the name opf the priest attack.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:50 am
by Lunever
Nah, "Evoke" sounds more wizard-like imho, then I'd rather take "exorcise".

Lol, in good western tradition we might also call it "proselitize" or "absolve".

Yet, since this is not supposed to be a "blow horn" or "brandish" effect or something alike, but rather the strike of the fist of God, I'd still prefer "smite", named with the "Smite evil" clerical class feature of DnD in mind.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 3:42 am
by Ameena
I think "Smite" sounds good anyway.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:39 am
by beowuuf
i agree with smite

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:49 am
by George Gilbert
copperman wrote:So setting an object to blunt but with the ninja skill radio active would give experience in both ?
No, everything in this thread is purely about how the damage is calculated. The experience type gained is a completely separate parameter.

P.S. Smite it is. BTW, the name isn't visible to the player, it's only ever seen and used by the designer - its up to you what you call the attack method.

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2006 12:28 pm
by copperman
tx GG sorry for off topic there.

*smites self

Copperman gains a priest level. :D

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:10 am
by Lunever
So, from a player's point of view: Would the "disrupt" action from the vorpal blade be for example such a "magic" attack? Would a Dain-potion thus increase the damage inflicted?

BTW: Am I correct if I assume that "smite" would use priest levels + vitality?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 12:15 pm
by George Gilbert
Right, smite is now added for V0.38 (and yes, it does use priest levels and vitality).

BTW - I made a small mistake in the descriptions at the start of this thread. Having now actually looked at the code the wizard attacks (and now the priest attack) takes into account the weight of the weapon, albeit only weakly. It's only the ninja skill attack that the weight is completely irrelevant.

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:34 pm
by Lunever
Is there any wizard attack with the "magic" descriptor aside from disrupt?

Are there ninja attacks beside punch, kick, ranged weapons, and stab?

Am I correct if I assume that all other attacks - except for the above and possibly replies to them - are fighter attacks?

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:45 pm
by George Gilbert
Can't remember off hand, but you can look up all the details (those mentioned above, and all others) of each of the attack methods using the editor...