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Just a lost soul finding like minded oddities
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:16 pm
by Opa-Loka
Hi all. new at all this. I used to play DM on the Atari ST. I feel a bit odd talking about a game that took up so many Hrs of my life. Just throwing all manner of items down endless corridors to gain Ninja levels, or sitting in the screamer regen for Wizard and Priest levels. Then after i felt my life needed a change I'd pop down to the Rat regen to get me my Fighter levels. God I'll never get those Hrs back. Loved playin DM and power building my Champions, Readying them for the new challenge of CSB. OK MORE OF MY LIFE LOST ON THAT ONE. But never the less I enjoyed the games. correct me if i'm wrong but DM2 never came out on the ST. is there a way I can get the game from PC to my dust ridden ST? Also i've seen many attemps at emulating DM but so far no one has done it to that standard. Can anyone let me know of a good CopyCat? and 1 more thing I've seen people making their own art, items, wepons, etc for the java version of DM is there a way I can incorperate them into the DM game/maze i'm attempting to create. Thanks.
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:31 pm
by Trantor
First of all, welcome to the forums!
It is not possible to play DM2 on the ST. However, there is a very good clone here in the forums called RTC - Return to Chaos. You can find a download link in the RTC General forum. RTC contains DM, CSB and DM2. I am sure it will be worth some more hours of your life. Also, an editor comes with RTC that enables you to build your own dungeons.
many thanks
Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:43 pm
by Opa-Loka
Thanks for that. this looks a much better design for DM rather than the JAVA. think its just gonna take a little time to learn How to use the Editor. i've already got ideas on traps and puzzles just hope i can incorperate them into the game.
Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:39 pm
by beowuuf
Welcome to the forums, and nice avatar : )
You may find some of the time you lost lying around down the back of one of the forums...but...then again none of the rest of us have!
Gif pictures for DMJava should convert to bmps that you can use in RTC - just make sure you use power pink (255,255,0 colour) for the background for transparency, and check similar sized objects to get the size and location offset right
As for DM2, you can also play the PC version emulated through the DOSbox too - there is a post in the correct forum for that
Hope you enjoy browsing around and rediscovering the game through the RTC editor! It would be remiss of me not to mention CSBwin, which is actually he original engine recoded for PC and updated a little with extra functions - just for some nostalgia, and also might fit with your prefered dungeon making , who knows
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:49 pm
by Lunar Celebration
ST!!!???
Begone, foul demon!!!
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:56 pm
by beowuuf
Lol, aren't you a bit new to be starting viscious flame wars!
(Especially since most people love the Amiga version anyway)
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:08 am
by Lunar Celebration
Amiga rules! Opa-Loka shouldn't be on here disrespecting people with his blatant ST worship.. just who the HELL does he think he is?
Worse than Hitler, I say... (goes off muttering under my breath)
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:32 am
by Sophia
Hey, take it easy...
The Amiga version can stand on its obvious technical superiority.
Vicious flaming is for ST partisans with nothing else to stand on.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:42 am
by Lunar Celebration
Hi Sophia!
Erm... I believe I have a lot to stand on.. BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN I CAN'T STOP HATING OPA-LOKA AND EVERYTHING HE STANDS FOR!!!
Ahem...
How are you? It's 11.45pm in England...
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 7:43 pm
by Opa-Loka
WORSE THAN HITLER!!!!!
Bit Strong Don't You Think?
This forum is for those who love Dungeon Master.
Everyone here has an appreciation for the simplicity and beauty, of this old treasure of a game.
If you want to rant and rave about how great the amiga was. Your barking up the wrong tree me old china plate. I never played on one.
So I can't give an opinion.
Much as I'd like.
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:15 pm
by Gambit37
Indeed. Lunar Celebration -- we recognise you are likely being sarcastic, but it doesn't always read well in text. If you haven't done so already, please read the forum
Rules & Policies, in particular all of point (1) and the last paragraph that starts "Finally, consider this:"
Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:25 pm
by beowuuf
Indeed, we've managed to have quite contentious topics and even weathered some nastier differneces of opinion simply from realising how something might sound to others, from taking some time to let people get to know us first, and from mutual respect.
So keep up the enthusiastic posts and don't let any discussions fall into meaner debates people!
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:59 am
by Lunar Celebration
That's very true.
As it happens, I was being sarcastic but having just re-read it, I do come across pretty mean-spirited, especially considering that it's pratically my first day...
So I do apologise and also made a mental note not to be sarcastic / ironic in writing - it is very hard to convey tone.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:08 am
by beowuuf
It really is - once people get to know you and you them then that limitation is removed, of course. One of the drawbacks of A forum
Of course, people seem to think I'm joking, when I am always, always deadly serious, so there are exceptions : )
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:23 am
by Gambit37
I thought it was always me who was serious, and you were always joking?
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:33 am
by beowuuf
Nope, I'm the straight Sid Little to your Eddie Large. Except, you know, with humour.
Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:55 am
by Gambit37
Ah. Thanks.
I forgot.