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First message, newbie question - not new to DM but to the forum
and also to RTC.

There was a Dungeon Hero picture editing tool with the CSB part
of the original DM on the Amiga... so I pixeled the portraits of our family
together and went down to flux Chaos more privately.

Now I am looking at RTC (got WinUAE as well but not that Chaos tool,
lost in translation over the years) and I really like it
but would like to repeat the nostalgic DM1 tour with RTC
and if possible, with the family.

Anybody know of a way to change
just the bitmap data ? Sure, there are some bitmaps in a folder
but things dont seem to be this easy, have to recompile part of the code
it seems. Wondering...

Welcome to the forums. I've moved your post to the RTC Editing forum -- the RTC Archive is for bugs/suggestions that have been implemented.

It's easy to do what you ask: First, read the docs that come with the game. Then investigate the editor. You should be able to work it out from there.

That is the easy way to change the bitmap data. Open the dm.txt file using the editor. Add your family bitmaps using 'add graphic' taking other portrait bitmaps as a size indicator. Edit the champion information to associate those potraits to champions instead.

Use the compile command as already discussed in a thread in the general area. There you go - you have original dm with your family pictures.

Yep much thanks, already got ahead. Btw just eplacing bmpsin the folder with a paint prog is a bit dependant in the color tables, the originals are using only 7-12 colors, not everything you save with Paintshop gets recognized by the ed - but it sure works. These pc paint progs are all made for 16-32 bit editing and they had 32 colors max in the olden days... guess I will do some serious editing over the holidays

daggernaut wrote:not everything you save with Paintshop gets recognized by the ed

RTC supports all colour depths (4-32bit) so there shouldn't be any issues with it not recognising stuff. What are you having problems with?

If you are finding the paint programme is destroying your original palette, someone should be able to get you the correct palette order

But that's the point: palette order doesn't matter for RTC.

He said in paintshop, and I seem to recall the same thing happened to me trying to create a keyhole for CSBwin - the original bitmap from DM/CSB was read badly, and the colours had been reassigned somehow

I just use Paintbrush when I'm messing around with DM images...it's kinda the most basic bitmap prog you can use and everyone's got it...

beowuuf wrote:He said in paintshop, and I seem to recall the same thing happened to me trying to create a keyhole for CSBwin - the original bitmap from DM/CSB was read badly, and the colours had been reassigned somehow

Yeah, but we're dealing with RTC...

He said he was taking his portraits he had created in the original game...so he will have to use a paintshop programme to prepare them in size for RTC...

If I understood the post correctly

I know you could take bitmaps of the correct size and directly use them in RTC, I've done it tons of times ; )

Yes, but the issue with colours remapping or colour tables being different is a non-issue in RTC.

Are we talking cross purposes? Has the story thread addled our tiny minds?

Lol, I reckon so - I think daggernaut need to reclarify his point. And include the Mutton Vindaloo spell!