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unusual chess games
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 10:20 am
by Adamo
are you bored with traditional chess? take a look at THAT:
http://www.omegachess.com/home.html
10x10 board!
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:07 am
by Lunever
Dunno, reminds me a bit on Janus chess, from which I quickly got bored.
Aside from that the descriptive text sounds pretty much like some commercialized ad from a game company that has run out of real ideas.
I also think that no one will be able to actually improve chess within the next 2 millenia.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:32 pm
by Adamo
I also think that no one will be able to actually improve chess within the next 2 millenia (...) run out of real ideas.
why not? there are actually dozens of versions of this game, this one just seems to be yet more complicated. In every version it`s all about the logical thinking, predicting opponent moves and strategy.
This one just gives you more possibilities. 100 tiles instead of 64.
I hope I could play it online one day!
Run out of real ideas? but improving chess gameplay is the idea! if you`re bored with traditional chess, you play it; if not, you don`t- simple.
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:44 pm
by Adamo
there are also hex chess for 3/6 (!) players:
http://www.chessvariants.org/hexagonal.dir/echexs.html
and chess for 4 players (rules are identical, you can play online!
<Edit: oh no, the online version has stupid rules!!!
> ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-handed_chess
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:46 am
by Lunever
Well, certainly it is larger in terms of two-dimensional space. But if you speak of possibilities, traditional chess already has a number of possibilities, that is in theory limited, but is so vast, that from the perspective of a human it is infinite. So you add something to something virtually infinite. Makes something still virtually infinite, I really don't see the point in that.
I can't get bored with traditional chess since I can never really grasp it. How many moves can you calculate in advance? Answer is "never enough".
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:15 pm
by zoom
I never grasped Chess , too.
I happened to play against my nephew , 6 years old,
he re-explained a bit of the rules for me, and I managed
to lose twice and win once because he made a
major mistake!
It can be fun, you only have to find the right opponent
that was traditional chess, btw.
once in england, I saw a Lord of the Rings Chess Game.
Looked cool. I don^t remember the price, though.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:21 pm
by Lunever
Well, what you did actually isn't really chess playing. You just played a casual board game by moving pieces according to a bunch of rules. Real chess playing starts, where you cease to just think in terms of tactically counting pieces killed, but calculate moves in advance along lines of possibilities that make sense, re-analyse the entire situation on the board, weighing not only pieces vs. each other, but also positions and other factors, and based on your analysis of the current situation on the board develop a longer term strategy.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:45 pm
by beowuuf
I guess at that level even analysing your opponent helps - are they a gambler or not, offensive player or defensive, do they seem to be playing a long term game from the start or reacting in a more immediate fashion to the board
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:14 pm
by zoom
Well, you are probably right, lunever!
and Beo, too
THe little man had really some kind of tactic
going on, nevertheless, copied from his father.
for me , I hardly think above 2 steps in advance.
I guess it only starts to sink in once you play
daily. but when does real chess play occur? If you
get explanations from better people? Do you have
to get it on your own? Is it in the genes/brain?
If you look at it, chess tends to be boring
and interesting as well!!
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:41 pm
by Lunever
Well, if you never get into that out-thinking your opponent level, chess may indeed become boring. But if you get into that, it instead becomes addictive.
For me, when I was a youth, a math teacher of me made me interested by offering a basic chess course. Then I read a couple of books about chess strategy and joined a local chess club, and I really liked it. I occassionally fought in tournaments, but I ceased playing when I got to a point where continuing to develop my skill would have been hard training instead of entertainment. Well, and exactly in that time I started to invest every available time in role-playing games. I haven't played much in the recent years then since other things kept me busy. But I still like chess very much and enjoy the occasions when I do play a game of chess once more.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:45 pm
by Sophia
Hmm, for moving pieces around and out-thinking I prefer
Space Hulk.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:53 pm
by beowuuf
Yeah, something satisfying about needing both tactis and also to kill your opponents pieces with purifying flame!
Heh, if only someone could have created a net version of that to allow us to play in these modern times.
I don't think such a heroine exists though
That now reminds me of battlechess, where I would deliberately set up chess pieces just to watch the deaths!
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:23 pm
by Ameena
Ahh I remember Battlechess - we had it on the Atari...I liked the different take-moves as well...stuff like Castle-takes-Queen...and I seem to recall most of the Pawn-takes-Whatever as being quite cool too...
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:56 pm
by beowuuf
Yeah, the pawn deaths were cooler because of the associated rarity of them
And didn't the castle do some fun stuff - like swallow the queen and bash the knight into his boots?
Knight taking knight was the best - completle monty python homage
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:58 pm
by Ameena
Oh yeah, that was great. And yes, in Castle-takes-Queen he picked her up (she squealed briefly), turned her upside-down, and swallowed her whole.
Castle-takes-King was quite a good one too - he'd bash him on the head, then pick him up and drop him and he'd float to the ground like a feather or sheet of paper.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:05 pm
by beowuuf
was it the pawn takes knight where the knight gets kicked in the crotch?
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:38 pm
by Ameena
Hmm I can't remember...didn't the Pawn somehow distract the Knight and then jab him in the goolies with his spear thingy? I don't think Pawns' little stubby feet can reach high enough to kick him, that's all...
I know in Pawn-takes-Pawn, the taker stumped the other one on the foot with the base of his spear, then rammed him in the head with it when he bent down.
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:43 pm
by beowuuf
Heh, i downloade it for PC! Though the graphics aren't as good as the amiga/atari
Will play with it more another time, but the pawn takes king has him nabbling the crown, and the knight takes king has the knight cutting open the king's robe!
Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:58 pm
by Ameena
I can remember Castle-takes-King (King gets flattened) and Bishop-takes-King (twirls round really fast with his knife-on-a-stick and slices him into thirds which then fall apart)...can't quite remember Queen-takes-King but I can remember King-takes-Queen (she opens her arms and gives him a hug, then pulls out a dagger behind his back but he catches her, pushes her away, then conks her on the head with his sceptre and she falls down).
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:50 am
by beowuuf
queen just uses her magic - funnier if he was a frog afterwards!
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:00 pm
by Adamo
I wanted to buy Omega chess just because it has expanded board (10x10 tiles).
I think the additional 4 tiles are not a good idea. and, therefore, second figure (wizard). 10x10 and one additional figure is enough.
I would also play EXACTLY THE SAME rules as in normal chess.
Here`s how it shoold look like:
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Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:16 pm
by beowuuf
What is the move of the champion?
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:22 pm
by Adamo
The Champion, like the Knight, is classified as a leaper. It can move one square orthogonally, forward, backward or to either side. Or the Champion can jump two squares forward or backward or to either side, or jump two squares diagonally in all four directions. The Champion can jump over pieces and it can control up to twelve squares. (See diagram).The Champion cannot move one square diagonally.
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