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Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:30 pm
by PaulH
How do I edit/view how strong a weapon is ie the damage it creates?
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:51 pm
by beowuuf
You would probably have to clone it.
I think weapons in RTC don't differentiate as this was not understood? So the attack would maybe be a better basis
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:13 pm
by PaulH
That is what I did, a clone, but while their was a multitude of other options, nothing pertaining to the weapon strength! I suppose I could clone the attack, but it really suprises me that a swing with a falchion will be the same as that with an inquisitor - I've said in the past that the weapons weren't varied enough in RTC and I think I know why now!
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:26 pm
by beowuuf
DM is varied and has many subtle wonderful interactions, and RTC was never based on the code just the feel, so misses some of this subtle stuff
So yeah, the swing of a falchion and inquisitor is the same - the power of a weapon is in it's options, or combination of options. not in anything it additionally gives the attaks
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:05 am
by Lord_BoNes
True that, Beo.
But, I can agree with PaulH, there should be an option for weapon damages (so you could clone a falcion, and make it effective against ghosts, etc.)
The fact that the weapon attack methods are what define its damages... there's a slight let down there

Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:46 am
by Trego
You can clone a falcion and make it effective against ghosts can't you? You'd have to clone the attack method of Vorpal Jab (give the strength and timing of the swing) clone the falcion and give it the action of vorpal swing for example. The problem being it will still be classed as a wizards attack, damage based on wizard level, wisdom and weight of weapon.
But, yes it would be nice if the weapon damage of swing, be more related to the weapon being used.
Currently I think the only difference to swing with inquisitor and falcion is due to the 0.6 difference in weight.
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:44 pm
by Lord_BoNes
I was meaning using the exact same damage and using fighter skill (not wizard), create a "falcion" that can harm ghosts.
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:12 pm
by PaulH
Lord_BoNes wrote:True that, Beo.
But, I can agree with PaulH, there should be an option for weapon damages (so you could clone a falcion, and make it effective against ghosts, etc.)
The fact that the weapon attack methods are what define its damages... there's a slight let down there

I think it takes a little away from playing the original - no point getting the Delta if you have a rapier or axe, Diamond Edge no better than a simple dagger now, or a falchion.
Thye original had values from 0-255 for weapon damage and 0-255 from attack (type) damage. They are multiplied together to give the total (modifier).
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:22 pm
by Sophia
It might be more proper to say that the problem is that the damage is determined by the attack method and the high-powered weapons use the same attack methods as the lower-powered weapons. If the Inquisitor/Delta/etc. used methods that were labeled "SWING" but were actually different methods (internally) that were significantly more powerful than a falchion's "SWING," it wouldn't be a problem.
This is something you can do in custom dungeons, obviously.
Re: Silly question? Weapon stats
Posted: Mon Jun 01, 2009 10:53 am
by Lord_BoNes
Something I have already been working on with mine
