[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

[Adamski]

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Yes, is correct. There is a lever at the end of the level that opens the secon treasure door.

Ps: Please DestructoBot, use the spoiler function to hide all the important information, thanks

[DestructoBot]

I am replaying the game, using the new version. Have noticed a few of the changes!

However I got a bug on the mirror level (darkness part) - when I went into the dark area, it immediately became light again! I threw the end switch and it went dark - even areas other than this ie the clock level!

What had I done? I remember quickly running through the first door, and bumping into the flying chest.

i got this bug too

[EvilPat]

help please, i´m stuck ...
i finished the sewers and climbed the ladder to get back outside. now when i open the gate with the lever and go through it, i hear a *ding* and i´m stuck in the gate.
i tried to dispel magic, drop items, etc. but i cant move through the gate ...

[ScienceMTP]

Firstly, just want to give a big thanks to Adamski for creating this dungeon. So far I'm having a great time playing it.
There's a few things I'm stuck on though, and/or have questions about.

1.) Priest Guild Treasure Room: I made it past the lightning bolt trap by using the Teowand's Spell Shield and then getting hit by the lightning bolts. How are you normally supposed to solve this?
2.) I've tried everything I can think of, but I can't find a way to open the door that hides the Bonsai Cage

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in Hieronomous' House

, any hint on how to open that door?
3.) I read an earlier hint about the Kath rune being in a

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"Connection Room"

, but I can't figure out what that meant exactly.

[PaulH]

For the first: I sent down one of those mummies to absorb the bolt.

[ScienceMTP]

Did you

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use the Horn of Fear to force them down the hallway?

[EvilPat]

you can use the "warc cry" ninja skill to fear a monster.

btw, anyone got a hint how i can solve that problem that i mentioned above? i´m still stuck in this gate ...

[ScienceMTP]

Are you talking about the

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sewer section where you find Alexei's bones? If so, after you leave that part, and return to the surface, you have a small "cut scene" with that floating orb guy.

[EvilPat]

probelm solved. it was a bug, i had to start over again because i didnt see the cutscene when i passed through the gate.

[ScienceMTP]

So, anyone have a hint about either the Kath rune or the Bonsai Cage?

[ScienceMTP]

Got the Kath rune, finished the Bonsai cage as well, but now I think I may have saved in a spot that wasn't particularly bright. I'm in the sewers under the ghost cellar, in the switch puzzle where you have to have all the buttons pressed for the last door to open. There's two iron doors that are sealed shut, and I can't for the life of me find a way OUT of this area. I do appear to be stuck. No combination of button presses seems to open the original door that led me to the area.

[Darth Mouse]

To Adamski Tuesday May 1st, 2012

Have Finished the corrections to the text in TOC 4.1 as offered and accepted

Just creating an excel file so you can see your original text and my corrections side by side

and an explination as to why i changed your original text

have made many small corrections to correct spelling grammer and in a few places have added additional hints

my focus has been to help clarify the original text to help the user in playing the game

would like your comments and what you wish to do with the suggested corrections to the text

Please Reply email me

Michael Robinson

Alias Darth Mouse Dungeon Master

[lord soth 75]

I cant get out of the first room

[beowuuf]

The first room is not the same as athe rest of the game, and is very nmuch more of a puzzle. Look to the items you have on dfor every means of interacting with them )as Zed's crafting the Survivor), look and click on everything, and even look outside and see what is around

[lord soth 75]

Its like playing a Monkey island game. This first room.

Iv managed to create a hammer,but it doesn't do anything.
Iv tried the 'Bash' option on the wall....but nothing happens.
Iv thrown it at the wall too,with no result either.

im throwing everything at the damn wall.

[beowuuf]

It is like a monkey island puzzle! And like I said, it's not the whole game at all

Spoilers below:

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Click on everything in the room - you shoudl find a tiny switch that you can't press and a grate yeilding an item. You might find tyhe item useless...literally throw it away! Hopefully that yields a new result
Also notice a rat outside

Hopefulyl that's enough spoilers to be going on with. The game is worth it qwith many clever and fun things, sorry you've been literally hitting your head on a brick wall!

[lord soth 75]

Loved the

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chase sequence with the red dragon.Very impressive

The game starts really well,and then you discover things like shops and stuff,which means the game has a currency system.Which puts me off playing anymore tbh.
It feels too DM2'y.

Might come back to this at a later time.

[Misplay]

Hi everybody!

I'm a (french) new explorer of the tower of champions, but I'm stuck and I need some hints to go further.

First of all, congrats to Adamski for this amazing dungeon. Really hard, but I truly enjoy the new components. The first time I try it, I give up quickly (first room), but the "call of the dungeon" was finally the strongest...

Okay, here are the problems I can't solved:
1) In the Guild of thiefs (

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"Test your reflexes" part

), I dodge the darts but I'm stuck in the room. No doors or fake walls, just

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some pits that disappear

. No clue of what I've to do here... This is very annoying, because when

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I fall into the pit, I arrive into the room where you've got the lockpicks, and I can't escape because the door is closed

, and I've to reload the entire game...
2) I've found the VI rune in the

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priest council

, but without the

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staff of rain

. Is that normal? In this topic, I've read that you need it to have the VI rune...
3) In the

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weather shrine

, I can't activate the shrine to have the

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OH rune

.
4) In the Bramud's cave, I've found severals alcoves that contain objects, but I can't interact with them. One of them seems to be

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the VI key

, but I'm not sure at all.
5) In the

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tomb of Hieronymus

, I find the

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VEN rune

, but I can't open

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Ra door

.

Any help/clue/hint will be welcome... See you soon in the tower!

Misplay

[Misplay]

I don't know if someone is reading this topic, but I'm in the tower... GREAT!

Very addictive and pleasant.

As I read the others posts of this topic, I'm pretty sure that I missed the pickaxe. Again, if someone can help me...

[beowuuf]

Haven't managed to play through this recently, especially the new version. Hopefully someone else can help! But it is indeed a great dungeon!

And belated welcome to the forum, btw!

[Misplay]

Thanks beowuuf!

DM is an amazing game. It's 25 years old, and people still plays it.

I was a kid when I played DM. And then, I discovered this forum 3 months ago, and I downloaded RTC... And about 15 years later, I finally finished CSB!

BTW, did you finished this dungeon (tower of champions)?

[beowuuf]

Never did, I meant to play the newer version and then became very busy Congrats regsading CSB, you aren't the first to come back to DM/CSB after a long hiatus and beat them finally!

[Misplay]

1.) Priest Guild Treasure Room: I made it past the lightning bolt trap by using the Teowand's Spell Shield and then getting hit by the lightning bolts. How are you normally supposed to solve this?

I find two others ways to solve it.
1.

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Use of the furniture you could find on this level

.
2.

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You have to open the door

.

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The scrolls near the door

should help you...

2.) I've tried everything I can think of, but I can't find a way to open the door that hides the Bonsai Cage

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in Hieronomous' House

, any hint on how to open that door?

Have you heard about a

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Enlarger machine

?
... NO: you can't actually have the bonsai cage. When you'll go deeper in the

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guild of mages

, you'll have to solve a riddle with

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screamers

to have the cage.
... YES: The hint to have the cage is on a scroll (

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"save at least one screamer"

).

3.) I read an earlier hint about the Kath rune being in a

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"Connection Room"

, but I can't figure out what that meant exactly.

Adamski hides a lot of things in this dungeon...
In the guilds, you have to find

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various "teleports"

(don't know if you said it like that in english, sorry, I'm french, and not very fluent in english) to access to this "connection room".

If you want more hints:
- The "connection room" hint refers to a place called

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"the Great Hall"

. This is

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a secret place where the masters of the guilds used to gather themselves

. You have to find

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a tleport to have access to this place

.
- There is

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4 teleports that lead to the Great Hall, one in each guild

.
- If you

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find them all

, you'll have access to another part of the dungeon...

If you want to find them quickly...
WARNING: this is the entire solution, I think you have to explore the map before reading it. It's annoying to be stuck (that's why I give you this solution), but most of the time, it's more fun to search alone ("Self satisfaction" in english?).
-

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Warrior guild: Near the place with the barrels

...
-

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... There's a lamp you could activate

.
-

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Priest council: on the level under the mausoleum, there's a trap that casts lightnings

...
- ...

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on the left, there's a fake wall, just before the pad that activate the trap: no need to get burn by the lightnings

.
-

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Thief guild: in a cell ("STEALTH TEST"), there's a button on the wall

.
-

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Guild mage: behind a golem, near "the enlarger of screamer", you'll have a couple of pits.

...
- ...

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Use the ZO spell to close the pits and run

!!!

Hope that will help you.

BTW, if you find a pickaxe...

[Darth Mouse]

Loved TOC Best Game played in Years
Have completed the game ver 3.3
Am about to start Ver 4.1 Tonight
Some advice Create a map using grid paper and record all conversations, text etc...


To Find the pickaxe

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its used to extract the gems

Hint XX Magic XXXXXX

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translate that with a spell

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You will need to cover that hole in the floor with something

Good luck
Darth Mouse Dungeon Master

[Misplay]

Thx A LOT Darth Mouse!!!

Sadly, I'm in the Sewers of the tower now, and I can't reach this place... I found a door to go outside of the tower, but I didn't find a way to open it.

Anyway, I'm happy to know that someone that could help me read this topic.

THX AGAIN!

Some advice Create a map using grid paper and record all conversations, text etc...
Darth Mouse Dungeon Master

I agree, this dungeon is too hard if you don't take notes. Luckily, I took notes AND screenshots!
The hardest thing in TOC, it's that you've to go further in the dungeon to finish the previous puzzles. Most of the times, you have the riddle at first, and then you have the way to solve it.
Ex: In the cellar, I tried so many things to kill the ghost... I finally gave up and went in the sewers. That was a good idea,

Good luck

BTW, I didn't find a way to solve some of the previous treasure chambers: I can't solve the

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heavy key riddle in the Guild of Warriors

for example. Do you find a way to enter in it?

I may beg some hints for the

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Pumpkin riddle

too: I found

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the Pumpkin in the clock tower

, but I can't

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activate the alcoves with a X

with it. Weird... Maybe it's because I don't put it in

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all the alcoves

...

And at last: the

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four-leaf clover

is outside or inside the tower?

Again, Gongratulations to Adamski. This dungeon is incredible. So many new ideas and components, with a D&D style. I love it.

[Misplay]

I take an old save, and I finally find the pickaxe.

That was an hard one! Couldn't have it without your help. Thx!

[Adamski]

@ Darth Mouse: I sent you a PM about your corrections. Thanks for your work!

@ Misplay:
the keyhole for the

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heavy key appears only when the lever in the little room is down; in that case a treasure chest picture appears... unfortunately the wooden door closes and you can't get out. But you are a strong warrior!

about the

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pumpkin riddle, you must activate the clock before

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the four-leaf clover is outside the tower, check near the priest council

Thanks to all

[Misplay]

I've got it! I'll try it as soon as possible.

Thank you for your work... And your hints.

EDIT: Good, I found the four leaf clover and the treasure chambers B -> E. The only one I can't enter is in the

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tomb of Azel

.
The riddle for the four-leaf clover wasn't too hard with the hint, but I never had the idea to try

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the magic seeds

here...

In the sewers, I've got one additional

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onyx key

!

[Misplay]

I give up for the

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treasure chamber in the tomb of Azel

... Any hint that could help me?

On the other side, I found a way to enter in the treasure chamber of the

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ghost cellar

.

BTW, I'm surprised that I found a lot of objects that seems to be useless.

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Bloody Dagger in the house of HIERONYMUS

,

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a techeye and a magnifier in th guild of the mages

... Did I miss something?!

About the

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guild of thiefs

... Is there a way to open the

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"are you a creater?"

door, in the

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"test your ability" part

?

[Adamski]

The treasure chamber A is quite easy. Look at

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the roof above the pad and try to switch the lever next to

the door. Think looking at the map.

There are many useless objects, you have mentioned two of them

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"Are you a cheater" is a additional way to solve

that secret treasure chamber. It's useful if you fail the game.