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What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 11:31 pm
by TiggyFox
Hello! I'm currently working on a brand new 3D clone of Dungeon Master 1 & a reimagining of 2 and want to rip the item stats, information, and layouts directly from an editor I ran into years ago that let me see everything - including items that were added to the game but never used. Does anyone know where it is? It may have been DMute, but the download link for that is dead now. I looked at the list here, but can't make heads or tails of it. lol.

Anyway, I will post footage when I have something more impressive to show than basic movement. XD

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 1:57 am
by Sophia
It may have been DMute, but the truth is, pretty much nobody actually edits the original version of Dungeon Master itself any more. The closest we get these days is CSBwin, which is based on the original Atari ST executable, but it has a lot of additions, too. Most new dungeons are created in CSBwin, or in RTC or DSB, which are from-scratch reproductions of the DM engine and look and feel (mostly) like DM but aren't actually compatible with it.

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:55 am
by Paul Stevens
If it was long ago then you probably used DMUTE. Try here:
http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/698#toc4

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 11:01 am
by ChristopheF
DMute can edit dungeons but not view/change other game data. Aren't you referring to ADGE instead? http://dmweb.free.fr/?q=node/1403
This is a very old tool. It will read game data from the Atari ST versions only. These versions store most game data in 5 binary items in graphics.dat (#558 to #562). All other versions store the equivalent data in the executables themselves.

If you can read C language, you may check my ReDMCSB source code where you'll find all stats and data for all versions. Check here viewtopic.php?t=29805

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:20 pm
by TiggyFox
Ah thank you! A read of your code will likely be very helpful! :)

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2022 3:24 pm
by TiggyFox
Thanks to all of you. Unfortunately I couldn't download this. However, all I really need is to see the stats so I can work out roughly how the game functions. Thank you. I'll see about screenshots when I have something to show!

Re: What is the best map editor for Dungeon Master?

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:34 am
by Gambit37
The download that Christophe linked to is working fine for me, maybe try again?