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Running DSB+ESB on M4 Mac Mini?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 1:57 am
by Gambit37
After months of research and deliberation, I'm (almost certainly) going to replace my PC with a M4 Mac Mini. I'm done with Windows.

But I am still tinkering with DSB and don't want to lose that.

So, would DSB run on an M4 Mac Mini using something like Wine or PortingKit?

Re: Running DSB+ESB on M4 Mac Mini?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:27 pm
by Sophia
When I had a Mac, I did DSB development in VMware Fusion, but this was back when Macs used Intel architecture, so I don't know how it is going to work now.

Re: Running DSB+ESB on M4 Mac Mini?

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:44 pm
by Dalamar
I use wine on an M1Pro MacBook Pro.
I’ve been using it to play RTC for years successfully.
The issue is eventually Apple will kill support for Rosetta 2, which will disable wine to function if you update the OS to a version that does not include Rosetta 2 on a silicon Mac.

On the other hand there is “whiskey” which supports silicon Mac’s natively.. but development has ended and that developer (of whiskey) has recommended switching to crossover in lieu of the ending of whiskey development.

Crossover is a paid application that lets you run pc games on. Your Mac… and its works very well. I bought and use it to play games like Diablo 2 Resurrected and banished on my M1 Mac. Crossover also is updated regularly and has fantastic support. Though I’ve not tried to use crossover to run RTC, As
Mentioned earlier VM’s like Fusion will probably work too.
Good luck!

Re: Running DSB+ESB on M4 Mac Mini?

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 10:38 am
by Gambit37
Thanks for the input Sophia and Dalamar.

I've got an M1 Macbook Air, so I'll attempt to run DSB on Wine using that.

A shame to hear about the demise of Rosetta 2. If that's the case, it seems prudent for me to keep my existing PC for gaming. (That said, it's too big and powerful for the games I play now, so I'll likely *downgrade* it!). I don't want to move to Windows 11, but if I have to keep a copy of it for a gaming machine, so be it. :|

Re: Running DSB+ESB on M4 Mac Mini?

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2025 8:39 pm
by Gambit37
New plan!

After starting the installer for Wine on my Macbook Air, and being warned that "Rosetta 2 is very hard to remove", I had a rethink.

I realised I was being a total idiot: I don't need to run DSB on the Mac Mini at all, I can instead keep my existing Mini PC Windows server and run DSB (and other old games) on that. It's on Windows 10 which is out of support in October, so I still need to decide what to do about that, but there seem to be a few options that avoid upgrading to Win11.

That means I can sell my powerful gaming rig entirely as I just won't need it: I'm not into modern games at all these days.

I also just discovered Mac Source Ports which should keep me happy with retro gaming.