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Re: HINTS & HELP: [RTC] Tower of Champions *SPOILERS*

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sure i have, but dont find it yet
im totally stuck now at this place.
found the bro rune, dont have the right key for the sewer control to flood ...
this ****ing ghost and map make me very annoyed cause i cant handle things like this
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What's the problem? The map makes you annoyed? What do you mean?
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I am stuck. I now have the spellbook and I have the runes LO, EE, KATH, FUL, YA and VEN. I am critically wounded and need VI. I guess it's either in the well or the fountain. I got into the well garden, but can't seem to do anything there? I can't get into the fountain either.

I solved Azel's bones and got into the priest guild. Found some notes about potions -- but I don't have a flask.

I have visted the weather shrine and the garden of delight, but can't do anything useful here yet.

I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for to progress......?
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The seeds are from a holy tree. Find the best place to seed one.
With the well: obtain the favour of fortune.
The weather shrine: a quest from confirmed priests, you'll need the correct item.
Also, I think you're ready to enter the mage's guild.

I don't remember finding kath. Any hint?
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Gambit, the VI rune can be obtained
1
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with the priest's guild
(the more logical way)
2
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with the well puzzle (but there are 2 wells
in the game, only 1 is correct)
You can buy an empty flask and enter into the fountain area using a key;
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this can be found in each guild (there are 4 keys)
. With a certain
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plant
and a water flask the VI potion is easy to get.

Zyx, the KATH rune is in a
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"connection room"
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Adamski wrote:What's the problem? The map makes you annoyed? What do you mean?
thats a personal problem only for me i think.
my overview are critical bad and with this complicatet map im just overextended...also cause the doors open/closed like their want and the ghost
kill me many many times.
i found the map but if i switch between your game / windows sometimes the game freeze...and also i have no printer at home to just print it out
(i make a pic from the map :mrgreen: )
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Lai, are these freezes a your windows problem or do you think is a problem of my dungeon?
I didn't speak about your overwiev, I know that this level is difficult. But is not so big and there are many way to escape from the ghost. He's fast and annoying, but I wanted he was so dangerous. You can go away and he will lose your tracks. Use the ladders, the grates-pits and the teleports to go away from him and, with a little luck, you will find the item for your craved vengeance.
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Adamski wrote:Lai, are these freezes a your windows problem or do you think is a problem of my dungeon?
I didn't speak about your overwiev, I know that this level is difficult. But is not so big and there are many way to escape from the ghost. He's fast and annoying, but I wanted he was so dangerous. You can go away and he will lose your tracks. Use the ladders, the grates-pits and the teleports to go away from him and, with a little luck, you will find the item for your craved vengeance.
hmh...maybe u give a little clue where to search? cause i even cant feel it like a pleasure
hehe

about the freeze im sure that this is nor problem of the dungeon, cause sometimes i could change very fast between game/desktop, and sometimes it freeze...
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The bigger the bother with the phantom, the bigger the pleasure when you will kill him. Look
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in the sewers, going down into the grate number 2.
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@Lai: Fullscreen games take a lot of system resources and aren't really designed to be left playing "in the background" -- I'm not surprised if you get crashes when switching to the desktop!
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I've found a gameplay bug.

In the Mage Guild, I blew up the boiler, killed all the wasps, blocked the golems with barrels and am now exploring. I found a room with many alcoves and spell scrolls. One scroll is "Dispell Magic" -- and if you read it, you are paralysed. But I don't have the ZO rune! I'm assume that the Dispell Magic will remove the paralysis, but if you don't have ZO, then you are completely stuck. I couldn't even kill myself (not enough mana for fireballs) so had to Alt+F4 the whole game. :-(
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Gambit, how did you reach this area without the zo rune? Maybe from the pit?

Edit: It's a serious problem, another thing to change in next version... Now you can only alt F4 :cry:
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There are news: money sent me his savegame (ver 1.0, the most instable) and I've finished his game (very close to the end) without freeze. I don't understand the strange behaviour of this dungeon...
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I got into the mage area through the front door with the eye. Then when I was passed the eye,
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I used a Staff to open the doors (it has a Zo spell as an attack method
). There's also another strange thing about that first eye -- it says "It's too dark", but I have full brightness from all the FUL spells I have cast :-)

Anyway, I have another problem. What am I supposed to do with this
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small caged screamer, the round floor ring, and the three pits with the wooden door? The scroll says to press the pad behind the door but I can't close the pit cover
. I do have the IR key though, I think I should go and get some water :)
I don't understand the strange behaviour of this dungeon...
If *you* don't understand it, then what hope have we? ;-)
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You must
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press the pad to close the pit
. Try to understand how the
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teleport-spinner
works.
About the ZO spell, what can I do? Maybe remove all the staffs from the game before this guild? I think it is excessive.

Edit: or maybe put another
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ZO rune in the laboratory?
It will be a surprise!
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Where is the ZO rune anyway? I haven't found it. Now I have LO, ON, EE, YA, VI, FUL, KATH and VEN
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="Gambit37...

Anyway, I have another problem. What am I supposed to do with this
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small caged screamer, the round floor ring, and the three pits with the wooden door? The scroll says to press the pad behind the door but I can't close the pit cover
look at it, what goes on. if u want to see what a tele exactly do,
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try to cast a spell which dont gone at the moment u cast it away, cast one that point u the spot for whole seconds.
first
second: do not kill all screamers, if something told you
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one should be alive.
third:
take a real good look at
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the items you get before, use them, and look which way their working---and you`ll understand
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Where is the ZO rune anyway?
There is a message about it: search there.
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You need this rune to finish this guild.
Edit:
Lai, the ghost? Is he still alive?
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yesterday first i was too tired to play after work, and at evening i drinking some beer at city with friends...
now im a little bit destroyed and so i think i will play this evening/night
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OK, I solved the teleporter and got the key. I still don't know what the bonsai screamer is for though.
Adamski wrote:There is a message about it: search there
Search where? In the Mage Guild?
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Yes, in an area where you would
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get trapped forever if didn't have the ZO spell
. But this can't happen because there is the rune ( a hint: there aren't illusory walls :mrgreen: )

Lai:
at evening i drinking some beer at city with friends...
You can go on with drinking beer also in the phantom cellar if you like :D
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Sorry Adamski, I don't understand you. Are you saying that the Zo rune is right next to the scroll that paralyses you? How can this be? -- you previously said I shouldn't have been able to get in here without a Zo rune.... I'm confused!

Where is the message about the zo rune? I haven't seen one.
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Ok, I try to be clearer:
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there is a little corridor with fireballs (upper floor of the mage's guild). There you get trapped because a door closes and you, to open it, must walk on a pad which activates the fireballs: the fireballs kill you. If you search, there is a secret area with an alcove and a message. Read it and do what it says.
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Hmmm.... OK, I found that scroll. But it just sasys "
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Zo. Open/Close doors.
" -- that doesn't help: the problem is that I DON'T HAVE THE ZO RUNE YET. I've been
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using a staff with a Zo attack method
, but it's now run out of charges and vanished. :(

EDIT: Never mind, I see what you mean now! OK got it :-)
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OK, so I found the way out of the Mage Guild using ZO, but I still don't have the clan key piece. I assume it's behind the fluxcage, but I've not been able to turn this off? I tried pushing a table into the fluxcage and the whole game froze!
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Oops, never mind, I forgot the new spell I learned. It was yesterday and I didn't write it down!
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I tried pushing a table into the fluxcage and the whole game froze!
Why does it freeze? Actually it's only a teleport which blocks the party. I'll check this anomaly
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Maybe because it had candles on it? I don't know -- this will be an internal RTC issue probably (ie, a bug?)
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Cool, I worked out what the bonsai was for :-) Nice! I also got into the two wells.

Now I need to finish the Priest's guild and the Thief guild, as well as sort out Khoran's final resting place. I'm not entirely sure what to do with any of these. I can grow trees OK, but not sure where exactly they should go.
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Should it be under the pits where the wasps came from, so that I can cross the pits above?
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No, the
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trees are helpful to complete the priest's guild puzzle
, but not necessary: somebody has succeeded without. I suggest not to use the seeds until you understand how they can help you.
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