[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

[Adamski]

Get the cross key from the

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mage's tomb or the lockpicks

Search his house

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(south in the map)

and open the door
Explore all the floors, you will find what you are looking for

[money]

Any ideas why I couldn't get the treasure ?!?!?

[Adamski]

I don't know, I had noticed that issue and fixed. In that case (versions before the 3.0) in the mages treasure room there was a problem with a trigger, so the counter in the final treasure room didn't remove the hazes. To test your problem I need your savegame, but you should try to visit again all the treasure room opened, maybe you didn't pass on one of the triggers (it's strange). A question: have you seen the message "congratulations, you have found all the treasure rooms"?

[money]

No, I don't recall seeing that message???

I'll try a re-visit!

[alfonzo glecko]

I do believe in god and it is Daevid Allen.(RIP Pip)

[alfonzo glecko]

thanks, I did find the deactivated rune. working out that puzzle now. I had just gotten the key and figurd out the connection with mages house.

[alfonzo glecko]

Got the ful rune in the spellbook. That's worth another cheer! yeah man!

[beowuuf]

Well done! I knew where the burnt rune was, but have no memory of how I got it activated. Need to get back to this dungeon, restarting after getting to the tower (but hadn't got water nor the mummy yet) seems daunting.

Oh, and I was running out of water while figuring out the mage guild... so put the pressure on and removed some creative brainpower

[alfonzo glecko]

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the tankard

is the key.

[beowuuf]

I played 1.0 previously, so they were a finite resource then...unless there was a way to refresh them that I missed

[alfonzo glecko]

As I read some old posts I am missing a red gem and probably many other items of critical inportance. I wish there was a listing of the critical items so I know wether I am taking a hopeless path.

[Adamski]

Do you mean the red gem in the mines?

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It is not essential

. I think you don't need a listing of items because in all the parts of the game you will be able to go back and take what you have missed. About the tankard, the shop doesn't have infinite resources. The way to get the water from the fountain is

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the lightning key, in the part of the sewers accessible before entering inside the tower.

[PaulH]

I am replaying the game, using the new version. Have noticed a few of the changes!

However I got a bug on the mirror level (darkness part) - when I went into the dark area, it immediately became light again! I threw the end switch and it went dark - even areas other than this ie the clock level!

What had I done? I remember quickly running through the first door, and bumping into the flying chest.

[Adamski]

Strange thing Paul, if it's frequent could compromise this level. I'll check, thanks.

[alfonzo glecko]

I am slowly working my way through the thieves guild. I am having trouble figuring out the dart test. It states the orientation with the number of lanterns, but I don't quite get the warning clues.

[Adamski]

The darts are random and the warning appears a second before each dart is thrown. You must try many times, this test is hard but not impossible.

[alfonzo glecko]

is the key

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to turn left or right as you see the dart approach you?

It does not appear to work that way, but..

[beowuuf]

Can I suggest putting alaxei on the back row, it gives you a little extra time to dodge out of the way

[alfonzo glecko]

I was right.

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You can easily turn toward the clued wall, then turn to the side as you see the dart coming to avoid being hit.

I love this game!!
Are the mini dungeons the surprise that was promised a couple weeks ago? I am still struggling my way through this game. You have real talent. Any commercial aspirations? Do you have any marketing or sales background?

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I would love to see you be able to make something from your intellectual properties. But you must first grandfather us into your company as beta testers.

[beowuuf]

Yes, the mini dungeons were the surprise. Upside down has a great central idea for some fun puzzles.

[Adamski]

I don't have commercial aspirations at the moment, Alfonzo, perhaps in the future . At present I'm pleased with creating my own levels. I've been an AD&D master for many years and I liked inventing stories and adventures for my players. Now I can do the same with a great game, my first computer RPG (I played DM with my Amiga 500). I'm happy you like this game, I hope it's the same with my last one (the surprise).

[alfonzo glecko]

I am waiting to play the surprise after I complete the tower. There are times when the tower bogs down a little under the weight of complexity. Some days I wander aimlessly and accomplish little. That is not a good thing. With some kind of playguide, this would be less apt to happen. The commercial version of DM had a brief playguide. I'm not sure theirs was as useful as it could have been. As I look at it, I remember going on GENIE to discuss the finds and where to get some maps that were very useful. A map maker and a compass ?? perhaps. This is one of the custom dungeons that has a real game feel.

[Adamski]

The first part is non linear and the aim is to find the 4 keys. How many guilds have you completed? I think a map is not so helpful, perhaps a walkthrough can be. Here you can find a lot of tips, the problem is that they are messy. Anyway ask (also in pm) when you are stuck.

[alfonzo glecko]

I have 2 keys . 1 thief
2 warrior I think. I just got to the ir fountain. Another cheer! I got zo rune (cheer). Yes a walkthrough and a compass.

[Adamski]

If you need a compass look the hidden image of the first post at this page:

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/vie ... 72#p102572

It's an incomplete map of the thieves guild, look closely at the imp cell.

[DM_Player]

Completed the game (80% of quests), but missed a few things:

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Couldn't open 2 treasure rooms - the graveyard/priest room and the sewer room. So, couldn't do the final treasure.

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Missed finding the Ven, Kath and Gor runes. I guess the Gor rune is needed to complete ViGor. I tried with a Gor coin and it didn't work.

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Didn't find the Secret Coins.

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Couldn't open the - Are you a Cheater lock - near the Thieves treasure room. Tried the solid key, but it didn't work.

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Didn't figure out how to get to Junius Secret Lab. Probably need to use the Junius gem somewhere, but where?

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Didn't do the 4 mirrors. No idea on this one.

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Didn't bother with the 66 days door/riddle. No need to wait, as you can look through the door and see the tapestry.

Did find a bug at the end. I killed Lord Chaos before completing the

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the Great Circle riddle

and when I went to get the

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Firestaff

the teleport haze had disappeared but so had the

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Firestaff. It wasn't on the stone table anymore

. Went back to an earlier save and completed

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the Great Circle riddle

before killing Lord Chaos and this time the

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Firestaff was still on the stone table.

And maybe another bug in the

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lower pit level where the hint sign says the left wall is illusory (where the Tech shield is), but it wasn't, although the magic map also indicated it was a fake wall.

Not sure if this is a bug, as I may have missed a switch or some other activation mechanism.

Overall, a great game. A bit heavy on timing puzzles for my taste, but still good.

UPDATE: I figured out how to open the

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graveyard/priest treasure room by freezing the spider over the closed pit, then going below and flipping the switch, then freezing the spider again after it fell through onto the pressure pad.

Doing it this way is a potential dead end. If you don't exit the

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treasure room before the spider unfreezes and the door closes then you are trapped in the treasure room.

I found that It also works with an object instead of a monster, no potential dead end that way.

[Lee]

I am lame... I've been away for a while and haven't played anything RTC related in a couple of years and boy does it show on this one.

So, I have a piece of metal! Aaaaaand that's about it...

[beowuuf]

The initial puzzle is a little bit different from normal DM fare. All I can add is that you should check and use everything for now... if you have the piece of metal, you are almost there to getting out!

[Lee]

OK got it, thanks!

In the style of Austin Powers' shoe-throwing comment...

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"Who uses a Tunic?"

[beowuuf]