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Re: [RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

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Sound doens't work for Sealtiel, any other tells?
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Do you mean that his PC doesn't have speakers?
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Not quite. My PC does have speakers, but they do me no good. I've been deaf for over 4 years now. Is there anywhere I can get some more light bombs? I threw them all here trying to see the pit, but every time I did it was open; so I'm not even sure if it's closing at all right now. I hit the small wall button by the floor, if that helps. But seriously, I feel kinda screwed here. I guess all I can do is keep waiting different lengths of time then trying to run across it, hoping for the best.

Shame on you for stealing a deaf man's sense of sight, though. Nah, I'm just kidding with you. I think this is a pretty cool idea for a puzzle, even if it is driving me up a wall. I didn't come this far in this dungeon to give up, so I'll keep at it.
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I'll bet that it would be possible to add text
'Click', 'Clunk', 'Squeek' (or whatever) to the
design to make it more accessible. I'll have
admit I never considered this possibility myself.
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I'm sorry Sealtiel, I didn't know. Playing this level without hearing the sounds (pit, switches, monsters in the dark) is a tough challenge.
In case you can't pass this point I could finish the section using your save. There is a problem with sounds in the next level too, but with the map it can be solved.
Paul, good suggestion for a possible next version. Thank you.
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Nice to meet you, Dr.Adamski.
My name is HIROYUKI, from Japan.
I downloaded Tower of Champion , and I was very impressed.
Now I have been playing in gohost cellar and sewers.( I had completed 4-guild quest , and entered the tower.)
I found 3 onyx keys , opened
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flood control 1 and 3 and 4.
But I can't find the way to
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flood control 2.
( for these 3 days ... )

*.I found out
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vopal weapon
and defeated
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the cellar-ghost
, and got rune.
*.I defeated
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flying-deamon
and got
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a onyx key
in the sewers.
*.I defeated
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fish-human-shaped-monsters
and got
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a onyx key
.
*.I got
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golden-key
, and
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find fake-wall and secret room , and got onyx key.
*.I'm struggling in
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'water pressure' puzzle room.
*.I can't find out how to open
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the grate door to flood-control 2.
My concentration is about to dry up...
I'd like to get some hints ,clues... :(

Thank you,
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HIROYUKI wrote: *.I'm struggling in
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'water pressure' puzzle room.
*.I can't find out how to open
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the grate door to flood-control 2.
My concentration is about to dry up...
I'd like to get some hints ,clues... :(

Thank you,
Have you tried
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finding the maximum and minimum values you can get in the water pressure room?
Also, have you tried to
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find out how the water pressure valves work? Try keeping all but one the same and then toggling that one until you can see a pattern.
Good luck.
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Post by HIROYUKI »

Hi,lbk.
Thank you for replying.

I checked
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maximum value is 8 , minimum value is 4
... is it right ?
I found out that
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toggling each valve rotates water-pressure value ,( ex 4 -> 5 -> 6 -> 5 -> 4 , etc.)
Hum ... How
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the water pressure values work
... I haven't been able to find out yet.
I'll keep trying to find out it.
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HIROYUKI wrote:Hi,lbk.
Thank you for replying.

I checked
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maximum value is 8 , minimum value is 4
... is it right ?
You got
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the maximum right, but the minimum is incorrect.
I found out that
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toggling each valve rotates water-pressure value ,( ex 4 -> 5 -> 6 -> 5 -> 4 , etc.)
That is correct,
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by changing this valve you can increase/decrease the water pressure by 2 points.
Hum ... How
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the water pressure values work
... I haven't been able to find out yet.
I'll keep trying to find out it.
If you have found all of the valves,
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putting the two above things together to get the minimum water pressure should help.
Hopefully these will help out, I don't want to give the answer away; just push you in the correct direction.
Good luck.
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Hi Hiroyuki,
the difficulty in this puzzle is
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the invisible teleport
that creates a little confusion. The value you must obtain to open the door is
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"0"
.
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Thank you, lbk.
I found out
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the water-pressure puzzle
!
Now , I have to find the last onyx key...
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Hi Dr.Adamski ,
I found
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last onyx key
, and
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flood the floor
, and erase
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all fire-elements
!
Now , I'm bringing
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pyros to furnace , going to breake huge-rock and get to forest
...
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I am still plodding forward .
1. I do not have the key for the bottom of the well of fortune.
2. I have not figured out how to get azell's ghost to do anything except move when I yell.
3. What do I do in the priest council after I release the mummy?
4. I have only the thief clan piece and the warrior clan piece.
5. the door near the flame pit is unsolved.
6. where do I use the rainstaff?
7. Should I just start over and take better notes?
8. What are the things that I should concentrate on to get into the tower?
9. This game is unbelievable. replayability? Like no other game before it. Collosal. I am not a stupid person, but I am obviously in the shallow end of this pool of players.
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You're not alone. I didn't have the brain, or time to get very far. I had to give up until I have the time to spare to do it justice.
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6.
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Outside with enough priest levels. You might find some of the rest of the priest guilt, like the flame pit, becomes logical.
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@Alfonzo:
1.
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later somebody will give you that key, at the moment don't care
2. Azel's function
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is to be an obstacle in front of the stairs
, nothing more
3. the mummy stays wrongly in that tomb,
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give back it to the right owner
(read the scrolls to know who)
4. you need the mage and priest keys
5. must solve the points 3 and 6
6. beowuuf said the correct answer
7. absolutely no, there isn't any reason
8. for the priest guild read carefully ALL the scrolls, solve the point 3 and
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open the door near the flame elemental
; for the mages, use all the spells you know; all the items you need to complete this quest are inside the guild (except obviously the spell book and
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the FUL rune
); after completing these guilds you will have the last two keys and will be able to enter the tower
9. nobody said you are stupid; the difficulty of this game depends on the own playing style and on my not always clear hints (scrolls and wall messages)
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Hi, Dr.Adamski , Now I'm struggling with
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the waxman in the museum.
I used
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the ***** picture
and defeated the wax-armor.
I've been searching for
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the hook on the wall ( for using the ***** picture ).
But I can't find
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the hook in the waxman-area
.
Hum ... What kind of trap is needed to defeat the waxman?
I'd like to get some hit , clues ...

P.S.
When I touched
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the picture of magic-eye monster ( which used fireballs ) , that monster appeared , I killed the monster.
I wonder
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that monster is 'trap' for defeating the waxman...
thank you
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Hiroyuki, what's the worst enemy of the wax? A logical answer could be "a fireball", but the waxman (when he's a monster) has too many health points to be defeated in this way. Consider that a wounded monster regains all its energy when changes back to a statue and in this condition is invulnerable to magic and weapons.
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Try a way to harm him continually with a non-magic and non-material "weapon", taking advantage of his weak point.
The wizard eye could work if you don't look at the waxman, I haven't tried this way.
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Thank you for your advise!
I defeated waxman!
Hum ... it's interesting way and very logical way to attack wax!
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After countless tries, I made it past the dark room and now I'm in the maze of a thousand stairs. I thought I was doing fine, but I'm not really sure where I'm supposed to be going. I guess that's the point of it being a maze. Found a few fake walls, with some good stuff behind them; and some remains that don't want to be moved.

I could've gone the rest of my life without the surprise materializers, though. I'm terrified of those things. The new hammer is awesome, though. Oh, and I wanted to ask; is it normal for Alexei to rejoin the party with almost no mana at all? I mean, he had over 200 when he left and he came back with about 30. Interestingly, though; his strength came back at 219. That makes it hard to complain, now I just use him as a melee machine; but I'm pretty sure that wasn't supposed to happen.

So I did what I was supposed to do at the mirror in the stair maze, and now I have a new scroll. I'm afraid that the hint on it is just a bit too vague, though. Or then again, I may just be overlooking something. In any case, I've tried "dipping" at every place I can think of that might be relevant; even so far back as the garden of delights. I'll keep doing random things, hoping something cool will happen; but between the respawns of all the nasty spellcasting critters in the stair maze, I get tired of looking around and not getting anywhere.
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Sealtiel, what you did with the mirror is
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a part of the big circle riddle; the hint in the scroll is for another part of this riddle
. In the stair maze the exit is
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in the area with a green arrow
(look at the map, I suppose you are playing the 3.3);
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walk on the green cross to open a secret wall at south and avoid the red ones.
In the short corridor with 2 crosses (1 red and 1 green) there is
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an invisible spinner
. If your path is correct,
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near the arrow you will find the skeletons of the lovers: Hedrik and Isabel.
: in that area there is the passage to the next level.
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solved mausoleum
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with furniture only.
I have the pick axe. There is rain in the pit near these stairs, but seed doesn't grow. I am trying to make it rain on the flame pit, but nothing is happening. I do not have the clan pc from the priests council yet. Some helpful hints?? Please.
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Hi,Dr.Adamski,
Now I'm trying to solve
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the clock-level and answered the 5 o'clock , 7 o'clock , 10 o'clock , 11 o'clock
.
But I can't find out
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the answer of 3 o'clock.
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'It's better hot food , but not meat
' ... hum , I wonder
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what kind of food in DM is hot food
...
I'd like to get some hints,clues ...
Thank you,
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Comes in loaves.
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Thank you nice advise,Paul!
I got it and solve the riddle!
Now , I'm explorering in the mirror level.
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This is hard, but expertly made! A good challenge.
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Now I'm struggling in
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the thousand stairs maze
. ( I solved the riddle of mirror level )
I have a hard time to find exit of the maze.
*.I found
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ten blood-keys and find secret treasure
.
*.I found
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fake-wall and the portrait of Electra
.
*.With magic-map , I found out
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the another fake-wall , but in front of it , there is a transparent-warp-zone , so I couldn't get to it.
I wonder
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the text ( '' switch : A B C D E F H " )
is related with the answer to solve this level.
Hum ... It's challenging level ...
I'd like to get some hints , clues ...
Thank you
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@Hiroyuki: if you are in the first part of the level (
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before the minotaur
), read
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the book of the magic number in the library
; for the second part read my last post

@Alfonzo: the seeds can only grow in the holy soil of the priest guild or
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near the underground garden
; fire elemetal and rain:
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the lever near the door?
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Thank you for nice adviese,Dr.Adamski!
I solved the first half of stair-maze.
Now I'm making map in the last-half of stair-maze.

P.S.
by the way ... Can
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the minotaur be defeated
? ( or
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invincible
?)
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I walked through the whole distance in thousand-stair-maze.
I found
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the bones of tragic-lovers and exit of the maze.
Now I'm playing in
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the GEMS level
.
But I have hard time to solve
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the thorwing-riddle of black door
.
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Black door closed very quickly as soon as my party leaves the yellow floor-pad.
I tried to cast off all equipiment to keep the wight of my party as light as possible.
Nonetheless I couldn't solve
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the riddle of black door
.
Hum ... Is there another fine way
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to solve this riddle
?
I'd like to get some hints,clues...

Thank you,
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