[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

[glecko]

I assume the wax museum stores a

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gear.

The trap may be in another room? like the

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library?

[Sealtiel]

Yes, I've already found the

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4-leaf clover

, and the

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panpipes

, but there's not much to go on from here. Again, I don't remember what all I've done & where all I've been so it's awfully hard to give more information. I already

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played the pipes in the maze of stairs

, and I think that gave me something else; but I can't remember what it was. I hope that helps.

[lbk]

Sealtiel: You get a scroll from killing the

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ghost in the stairwells

that reads:

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As written in this roll, you must save that soul. If dip those poor remains you will break their chains.

This goes with

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the picture of a fountain on the wall mural.

Hope this helps, good luck.

[glecko]

I have just gotten the

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sun orb.

There is a schroll in the

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clock area

that has info on this item. This is the greatest DM game of all time!! name one better. Only original DM and CSB would rank higher.
Please come back Mr Adamski.

[Chaos-Shaman]

help...
wow, this game is bigger than i thought, i think i read someone beat this game in 9 hours, i don't see how.

i need some help:
- i need to solve the big circle puzzle, where ever that is
- at a nine worlds door that has no lock
- i need vigor door to open, but i can't find the gor rune or the ew

i'm trying not to read the thread with the spoilers, i am thinking that i have no choice. great game...

[lbk]

Chaos-Shaman: The big circle riddle is not needed to complete the game.
You cannont open the nine worlds door yet.
I believe that you can only get a gor rune

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later in the game, towards the end of the tower.

[Chanis]

Uh oh .. ok .. I am EXHAUSTED. Doin the best I can I manage to solve part of game, but i could really use a hint now.
What i completed (hope): Warrior guild+secret room+treasure room+glory, thief guild piece+killed prisoner (not sure if it was not mistake), mage guild+ruby+secret room, recovered priest bones, rain is falling, entered 4+1 exits in guild hall. Had few runes, spellbook, armour i cannot carry cause i am weakling and pile of items at pub-shop. I can read small texts. Water is no problem. Light is no problem. I can heal and fireball and open door via magic.

What i cannot pass: open closed trap in sqare room at graveyard, solve cross-teleport riddle at priest guild, kill nonmaterial beeings (i have feeling i missed non-material rune somewhere), open second grate-door at flooded basement. Priest guild seems incomplete to me a lot. i have acces to underground garden.
I entered 5th door at guild hall, but i get tired too much to continue. horn helps a bit, but what the hell i am supposed to to with "66" doors, vigor, gor coins ???

Give me some tip to continue.
Thanx
Ch.

[lbk]

The trap in the square room in the graveyard and the cross teleporter riddle at the priest's guild are related.

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This riddle opens the treasure chamber and is related to a switch that is near the cross teleporter riddle.

If you have gotten the basement flooded you should have a

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vorpal blade

, which is helpful for getting

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the ew rune.

The "66" door is related to the

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clock puzzle.

The vigor door cannot be opened yet.
You should be able to use gor coins on the

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same level as the vigor door and "66" door

, just look around to find where they are used.

[Chanis]

Thanx for help. Cross-teleporter was obvious, i should figure it out myself. Few copper coins I get for it did not worth the effort I spent on forum

Flooded basement, no i am at diferent place, definitely not close to vorpal blade. I refer to place with "Alex bones".

What pushed me forward was some noteon forum mentioning you can "rob graves", which i did not know. It was missing piece to complete cleric piece - thö i HAD HARD times navigating mr.K - as i had 1 last seed available and just 1 table and 2 lighttorch. I somehow destroyed rest during experiemnts looong time ago. Was superb chalenge, quite lot of saves but i made it. Big thanx to author. I feel .. entertained

[Chaos-Shaman]

must of took a long time putting this dungeon together!!! ok, how do i:

- open second grate-door at flooded basement? if i remember rightly, that second grate door closes when you open the first one, and a giant rat behind it, and it is not interested in cheese, so how do i open this door? i'd like a vorpal blade too . i don't know what guild that i have missed the clan key in. any directional help is welcomed

[lbk]

Chains and Chaos Shaman: I misunderstood which part of the flooded basement you were in, the second grate door in that part of the flooded basement cannot be opened until you enter the tower.

[Chanis]

OK. So I got orb from wax statues. But i struggle with following:
- not sure what to do with orb, but it seems i will find it later. Hint does not seems to point to something already find.
- only way forward is probably through ghost cellar (i havent entered 5th door at guild hall in this save, but i cannot leave tower atm). Can i open grate or operate ladder? I found 2 ladders but they act just like wall. I play without sounds, coleagues at work would be suprised why mine computer does AAArrghhhh!!!! Squik!Squik!Squik! HrrghHrrghHrrgh Deathcry....

Any hint where to now?

[lbk]

Chains: You need to find the

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phantom key. There should be a scroll talking about it somewhere in the cellar, make sure that you have enough food/drink because once you enter getting back out can be tricky.

[Chanis]

Ok, find phantom key. Was only luck, i found scroll-hint about it later. Missing 4th onyx key, but i expect it to be conected with 2nd gold key. I picked scroll in haste and later i read it .. was one about red wine. Got wine. Any can help me to find proper place for it (cough). Dont want to do 1st part again.

So can great ibk help me with:
- any hints abotu 2nd gold key, or 4th onyx
- red wine position, or it's effect, so i know i stumbled over right place.
- while looting warrior secret chamger, there is scroll about green gem. I missed something?
- freaking crused bones still unlosved >:/
- locked grate with chest behind with empty mirror near ladder 1
- treasure chest in ghost level control room

... And thanx for hint to carry some food and water with. I come loaded and it pays off!!!

[lbk]

Chains: I also found the phantom key by pure luck, but I guess it happens.
1)

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The 4th onyx key is behind that door. If you do not have a second key, how else can you open a lock?

2)

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I believe you need it to exit this level back into the tower, check your scrolls at the beginning part.

3)

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The gem is not in the warrior guild.

4)

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Part of a particularly difficult riddle, not needed to complete the game.

5)

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I really like this riddle, this treasure room is different than all the others because the mirror does not have a chest in it. You need to figure out how to make it the same as the others.

6) I cannot recall how that one was opened,

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maybe something to do with the fake wall?

[Chanis]

Got 4th onyx .. was 1 click away from it .. say i need more persistance. Got fuse. I am a bit in dead end now. To proceed, i need to get back to tower.
Solved - for red wine, should item be named red ghost wine or is it regular tankard? Seems to me i dont have right "wine"
Solved - failed to solve treasure room at control room
- killed shade at graveyard, fail to proceed
Solved - fail to obtain KATH rune,

Good good. I moved a little bit forward .. just tried few new ideas and luck helped as well Fianlly was able to search library (go vorpal go!).. I like that place!!
What i am thinking about now:
- treasure room at wax museum
- shade/closed grate at graveyard
- thief master lock (i get master champion to help me but he fail miserably!!!)
- is there way to open from tower door so i dont have to run around?
- is "royal shortcut" joke or i missed something?
- cursed bones
- "who killed me" ghost
- chess game

Chan.

[Chanis]

Hrms ... i could use some hints. Seems i am in dead end.


Edit:
- red light, green light ... no longer bothering me, wax room treasure solved.

I just find out why do i carry master key. This will keep me busy for a while, it seems ....

[glecko]

I have the hourglass, but I am still struggling with the 2 pits, the worm gate with the chest, the electrical floor, the time demon, lord grey, and a couple more. Any hint about the 2 pits? worms?

[PaulH]

Use the hour glass to freeze time - it reappears in the original spot after is used.

[lbk]

- thief master lock (i get master champion to help me but he fail miserably!!!)
- is "royal shortcut" joke or i missed something?
- cursed bones
- "who killed me" ghost
- chess game
Chan.

What kind of master champion were they?
Extra riddle to make the game more interesting.
Extra riddle to make the game more interesting.
No idea, really wish I knew that one...
There should be

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a scroll in the library to help out with that one.

Good luck.

[Chanis]

What kind of master champion were they?
Extra riddle to make the game more interesting.
Extra riddle to make the game more interesting.
No idea, really wish I knew that one...
There should be

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a scroll in the library to help out with that one.

Good luck.

1 - master thief of course
2 - hate you
3 - hate you
4 - hrmmsms finally some kind of challenge!!
5 - solved before

doing clocktower atm ... spend whole afternoon before i realized than 16 can be 4, and another day realizing 4 can be 1

a - I could use some help with scroll i get from cocktower eye. I cannot understand a shit out of it. i really dont know what i achieved
b - i am having troubles wit clocktower treasure room

[lbk]

A) You have found

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a part of the big circle riddle, its pretty fun (There are 8 parts) and allows you to get the firestaff. The scroll is a hint to the next part of the puzzle, I am not sure what it says but you may not be far enough for it to make sense yet. Note that this is an extra riddle to make the game more intersting and you do not need to solve any part of it to complete the game.

B) I seem to remember this treasure can be obtained

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only after you solve the clocktower and only if you can get to the treasure room door if you do.

As far as opening the lock in the theifs guild, I think you might need

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one of the hidden characters to do this. I never got any other master theives so I do not know if they can open it, but it sounds like they cannot.

[beowuuf]

Am I misunderstanding, or is the 'who killed me' ghost whatsisname the mage? I think it's just flavour like the bloody dagger and blood around there

[lbk]

Yeah the "who killed me ghost" is herriniminiousisly the mage (Or whatever), I don't know if it is just flavor or not. Just never figured it out

[glecko]

i did not realize you could

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use the hourglass over again. Probably limited to twelve or 13 days. I have the twigs and chests. when I turn the twigs into heros swords I only have a short time to get another hourglass and try to slay the time demon. I use the hourglass and try to slay him, but to no avail. This strategy does not work.

I also need help with the treasure door where the worms reside behind the golden gate.

[glecko]

If anyone has beaten the time demon can you tell me how? What weapons/spells/potions/party

[lbk]

Using the

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heros swords and the armor you get, it should be easy enough to just stand there and hit him until he dies.

[glecko]

not at all. Within about 5 hits he has killed my party and

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my swords turn back to twigs.

I will try again.

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His fireballs get me even using firespell wand.

[PaulH]

I am usually strong enough to defeat him. Infact I have never been killed by him.

[Chanis]

Time demon terminated. Whole level Solved .. just wondering what is about moaning ghost? it is only part where i see no purpose for it.