[RTC] Tower of Champions HINTS & HELP *SPOILERS*

[glecko]

Time demon terminated. Ten oclock not solved. Any hints?

[lbk]

Glecko:

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Try flipping switches.

[glecko]

I find no buttons at ten oclock. Or any other time within the ten oclock door. This is the door with the the chest.

[lbk]

Glecko:

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The switches are not right next to the door.

[glecko]

I have looked at every wall inside and outside the door. I have looked inside the

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imaginary wall.

I have looked at these at every hour and no sign of any buttons. Am I blind?

[Chanis]

I have looked at every wall inside and outside the door. I have looked inside the

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imaginary wall.

I have looked at these at every hour and no sign of any buttons. Am I blind?

Yes and no. I am not sure if it is required, but it works for me to make sure 1st doors are open before I played with triggers.

I could use .. on other hand .. help with "tech greaves". Cannot pass wall. <------
I could use .. on other hand .. help with "fire greaves". Cannot pass pit. <------

Electra online, and I LOVE gem level as much as I hated stairs.
Seems I find out bug which help me to change chars into superheroes. It really help with ecumberance as I now carry all I want to and few chests just in case

[glecko]

Still no buttons. I feel like I am way off on this one. Help!! I even restarted the level to look at each area at the moment of first trigger, such as Looking at

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three oclock at three oclock and setting the correct item down.

The clock goes too fast for any thorough examination.

[Chanis]

Glecko:

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permanently stop time at time when 1st doors to treasure room are opened

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there is another trigger which control 2nd door/grate, pass door you need to open with time demon key

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Just wondering .. Have you find Richard?

Let me know if you sucesfull with obtaining tech or fire greaves. Seems I missed tech shield as well.
I stopped playing for a week to get strength to pit level. Will try to move forward a bit today.

[glecko]

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Richard starkey?, richard Garriot, Keith Richards, Little Richard,

? Actually, I have not found

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richard

. I do mot even have a clue what you are asking. Is it important. I usually try to finish an area before I move on. There are notable exceptions(

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the wax museum)

Thanks so much for the help. This program/game is professional in all areas, except the Literature which usually accompanies a commercial release. I have been deeply wrapped up in this game for months.

[Chanis]

Richard the master warrior

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is one of hidden chars

. Another is

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Elektra

, there are more but i am not that far in game.

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There is scroll mentioning some secret passages at clock tower level.

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"Ask shopkeeper" at right time and you may find much more than Richard

[glecko]

Thanks for the help at ten. I am back in the library. Many unsolved areas. I have a scroll that looks like it could be

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about the chess game behind the door

. There is

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a treasure chest beyond the gate.

I have tried

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moving the men in every conceivable combination to no avail

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There is a door with a brown lock that requires a key .

I need a hint. There may be other things I am not listing. I could really use a few hints.

[Chanis]

Glecko, chess scroll is hidden at library LEVEL not library itself. Just click around to get it. Brown lock remain closed for me as well. Havet you smashed pots at Champion corner? At least one will please you. I was not oble to procceed more in Library.

For mine record: i reached B&W greaves, fire creaves solved as well - I still could use hint for tech greaves and tech shield.
>Edit: tech shield and tech greaves aquired.
I grouped master Zenith, I grouped Sasuke .. so all 4 hidden chars find out. Entered thief guild secret room, aquired bow of flames, dispel staff, neta rune - or one which looks like cross.
For pit madness level i cannot reach one gold key.
For gem level I was not able to enter to bypass teleport trigers close gem machine and i have no use for Gem machine as well.
I cannot reach last treasure room.
I have found out Junius secret room.

Help welcome.

[glecko]

I have tried

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lining up the men in the chess game

. nothing happens no matter which orientation I use. The map has

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the letters m,o,k. are these letters meaningful

. I have also tried

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planting seeds all over the priests guild and grown trees everywhere.

No clover. I need help in both these areas. Thanks

[Chanis]

I have tried

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lining up the men in the chess game

. nothing happens no matter which orientation I use. The map has

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the letters m,o,k. are these letters meaningful

. I have also tried

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planting seeds all over the priests guild and grown trees everywhere.

No clover. I need help in both these areas. Thanks

Map:

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K=knight, M= monk, whole map is turned 90 degrees compared to starting position.

Clover:

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there is empty floor on way to rain shrine from cleric guild. Rain is falling there, ground is wet, cough, cough...

Have you solved undead with grate at graveyard? I also miss fire plate. Dont tell me i have to buy it at shop

[lbk]

For the gold keys,

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remember that not all pits are as they seem.

I am not sure what the thing on the gem level that you are talking about is, so I cannot help. Sorry.

[Chanis]

Got last gold key, tho i was looking for different one that you gived me hitn for.

Is there some special meaning about Junius chamber apart to open unopened?

I am having problems with last treasure room, but last key showed new aproach. Will try it.

At gem level, there is big machine sitting on floor. Doing nothing. Few sqares away, there is plate on floor which teleports you back if yo trying to pass. there is some rnue on floor pass this plate-s.

Noone ever placed post mentioning panflutes. They should be in game. I did not see them. ... Hints?

[lbk]

Oh, in the gem level you can

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obtain the ros rune by getting past those pressure plates. There is another way to obtain this rune as well.

Panflutes,

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check the graveyard. You can use a map to help you find places you may not have been.

For the last treasure room,

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I am completely confident that I did this incorrectly. I may not be of help.

[Chanis]

[quote="lbk"]Oh, in the gem level you can

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obtain the ros rune by getting past those pressure plates. There is another way to obtain this rune as well.

I reached secret room with bag and Ros rune. Question is how to pass plates...

[lbk]

Oh, to get past the pads

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I just rushed at it and eventually I got by. Probably not how you are supposed to do it, but it eventually works.

[Chanis]

Ok. I fail to pas plates. Maybe boots boost needed for whole party. I will try it later. Thanx for panflutes. I tickled Lord Chaos with no luck, I try to charge beholders lasting much less time than i ecpected. So back to Circle.

[Chanis]

Suddenly, the dark sky shatters and Lord Chaos gasp in pain. You took your chance and powerfull lightning bolt crushed him to pieces. The War was over. Or .. not? You sliced through waves of enemies until you reach bitter end. But maybe it is what you were looking for. See yo soon ...

completed in 1 day 10 hours
completnes 86%

MISSING:
- some GOR coins (forget to use them before it was too late), never mind
- 4 mirrors (did i tell you haven't used single Gor coin?)
- 66 days door-riddle (ok, ok .. i know what to do, but who keeps old saves anyway..)
- final treasure room (it must be a joke, what did i wrong???? I robber all treasure rooms and i had no chance to do final step. Proly i did not understand how is Junius thinking)
- something called "Mining" (whatever does that mean)

Areas I fail to solve:
- never find out how to dig GOR rune out of library and open locked doors there
- VIGOR doors. Apparently you cannot do 2nd step if you miss 1st (If some1 bother me to help with step one, i will release some carnage there )
- read text by Lord chaos head, 3rd floor Pit Madness
- haven't find any use for corbamite
- haven't find any use for BIG crystal machine on Gem level
- haven't find any use for "I have been waiting for you two days Electra"
- haven't find ANY of missing books from library. Seems monk's death make no sense.
- havent passed freaking Ghost-spectre in grave with grate (this is really pushing me)

What I really like:
- Hidden char master wizard picture and "its" tweaks ..
- all what happened after dawn (was rewarding after all clues)
- resourcefulnes of Author
- I give BIIIG thanx for though beggining. I suggest players should be warned before they load this game


Total impresion: Stunning work Mr.Adamski. Good JOB!
Hint for new players:
Do you know what happens, if you Resuresct some1, infuse him with potions, kick him back to mirror and then Reincarnate him saying godbye to all levels? Try it, you will like it. Who cares about levels if ...
And last sentence:
NEVER EVER GIVE UP

[lbk]

For things you missed:

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Gor coins are important.

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See the one about gor coins.

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Nothing special happens when you open this door, you can see everthing with the see through walls spell.

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You can either open the vigor door or use gor coins to get to this.

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Mining is related to mining all of the gems out of the walls, a pickaxe is required.

For the things you never solved:

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Gor rune is obtainable after you kill lord chaos, door is related to the last point here.

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VIGOR can be opened or gone around with gor coins (as stated above). Don't think of it as one word ("vigor") think of it as two smaller words added together.

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Do not know what this means.

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I used corbomite to get one of the keys on the pit level, the one where you needed to throw an object past the wall. Probably not the intended use.

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I think it does something when you get the lightning to hit it. I cannot remember what though.

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Do not know what this means.

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The grate cannot be opened. Try finding another way in.

Also good job with completing the game.

[Chanis]

1st: Do not know what this means.

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In pit madness level, there is head of lord chaos on wall, with magicaly hidden writing next to it. You can light his eyes, you cannot read writting with read magic spell.
And it was not readable even after i killed LCh.

2nd: Do not know what this means.

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There are scroll in Library mentioning missing books. There is corpse of the monk with scrolls mentioning this books.
Never stumbled upon ANY book.

[lbk]

The wall next to the lord chaos head says...

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Emergence: close all the prision exits.

I believe that it refers to when you use all 4 gold keys, releasing the dragons. But I am not sure.

I am unsure of what scroll you are talking about,

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but I do not believe that I ever found books outside of the library (other than the one you start with) Maybe it refers to scrolls that are missing, like ones that tell a story.

[Chaos-Shaman]

i got to get back to this game. i wonder how many years it will take me to finish it. time was spent on dungeon puzzle design. i can see this dungeon being perked by graphics to become the ultimate dungeon.

[glecko]

fantastic job with game. What is 1 day and 10 hours, though? is that the total hours played ,but not consecutive? or is it 34 straight hours? The first way is awesome the second would be maniacal.
Does anyone have the mini games?? If I ever complete this game, ...er, when I complete this game, I will like to try the minigames. With a little changing to make the game a little less choppy due to level of difficulty, this game would be numero uno of all time!!! It is just so vast and so compelling!

[glecko]

I got the 10 oclock riddle thanks to a few hints. I should have gotten that one by myself! My favorite part of the game, so far is the

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endless blue gem mine

!! by far! I have

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every weapon

that can flame, throw a lightening bolt, dismember non materials, etc. etc. I have a

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n army of minions

that I will play with! beginning the symetrical mirror level.

[glecko]

I am in the room that is a mirror image. I am trying to match items. The table has an

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apple and another item on it.

I can not make out what it is. Is there any way to magnify the map to see better? I have brought these matching items with me. Is this strategy correct? Is there another way? There appears to be

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a picture of a treasure chest

where the fireplace is. I do not have a

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picture of a treasure chest.

Any hints?? It takes me so long to figure out the details of each puzzle. My hat is off to the players who easily find their way through. What line of work would benefit from the gift of riddle solving. It really does seem that the more gifted of the players could surely be considered as a valuable talent pool. Icould really use a hint about

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the table and the treasure chest.

Thanks


I have found part of the answer. I think I know

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what the items on the table really are.

[lbk]

Which room are you talking about, not to give too much away

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there are multiple mirror image rooms. Are you in the one that has the suit of armor and table and fireplace or the one that is completely dark or light?

[PaulH]

I managed to complete in 9 hours lol.