Still No joy with 0.17 even starting up (Same as 0.16)

gab2001uk · Post by **gab2001uk** » Thu Mar 14, 2002 1:05 pm

I posted after 0.16 with the same problem and gave up. 0.17 is the same. I have tried on 5 computers with different OS and the same result: Screen goes black, low res cursor appears briefly, then back to the desktop. No error message this time, and no log file either.I have tried using different screen res, and even a clean Win98 SE install, and tried the screen settings in the config.txt file.
Any ideas? <HR>Graham, www.gab2001uk.com
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Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Mar 14, 2002 1:40 pm

These kinds of problems are always the worst to troubleshoot. I have a similar problem at work - some of the software we sell just refuses to work on certain users' machines and there is absolutely nothing we can do about it.

I appreciate how frustrating this must be for you, but really don't know what to suggest. I have never seen this problem, neither on my Win 98 SE at home nor my Win 2000 at work. Both these machines have Matrox graphics cards.

I hope someone can give you some advice - I know I'm stumped!

dit0h · Post by **dit0h** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:55 am

do You use a nvidia'sgfx?

[d2].

gab2001uk · Post by **gab2001uk** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:57 am

No. Most of the computers have ATI graphics cards, one has an on-board SIS , the other a generic 8MB cheapo card. <HR>Graham, www.gab2001uk.com
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George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 2:32 pm

Daft question - but they do all have DirectX 3.0 or greater installed don't they?

gab2001uk · Post by **gab2001uk** » Wed Mar 20, 2002 3:34 pm

Most have DirectX 7, my laptop has the latest version (8.?)as I have permanent internet connection, with Windows Update telling me when anything new is around. <HR>Graham, www.gab2001uk.com
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Post by **Lunever** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 2:22 pm

Might have nothing to do with it: but, I had a similar problem, you, know, just getting a black screen when starting RTC, and it was caused by the activated remote desktop in Netmeeting, and all worked fine after deactivating that.
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gab2001uk · Post by **gab2001uk** » Thu Mar 21, 2002 9:37 pm

I had already considered other programs interfering, so have tried shutting off everything except the essentials, but it made no difference. I am puzzled why I get the same on so many different computers, even with a clean install of the OS and no other software on it. <HR>Graham, www.gab2001uk.com
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Post by **Gambit37** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 10:22 am

Are you sure you're extracting everything from the zip correctly? Have you extracted everything with full paths? If not, it's possible to get the behaviour you described.

When installed correctly, your RTC folder should look something like this:

\
+Colours
\Data
+Manual
+Modules
+Portraits
\config.txt
\editing.txt
\readme.txt
\rtc.exe

Perhaps everything has ended up at the root level of the folder?

gab2001uk · Post by **gab2001uk** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 1:56 pm

Gambit. You are a Genius!!!

I feel a complete idiot, for not extracting the files from Winzip properly, just dragging them all into a folder, so they ended up as you described.

Thanks again. Chaos is now going to get a good beating! <HR>Graham, www.gab2001uk.com
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Post by **Gambit37** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 3:36 pm

Cool, glad to be of service!

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Fri Mar 22, 2002 3:37 pm

Woohoo...

I'll leave this here as a bug as the code should really check that all the extra files it needs are present and give a helpful error message rather than just falling over in a heap!

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Thu Apr 11, 2002 8:41 am

Fixed for V0.19

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