DM Sound

[PicturesInTheDark]

Has anyone been able to figure out a way to play DM with sound on current computers (no matter which way) that can be used? I cannot get proper drivers and as a former amiga user I do not want to play without sound - pity for all the extra dungeons!

(RTC is a good alternative, but I cannot use the new dungeons there!)

[ChristopheF]

You must use emulators like dosbox (for windows) or dosemu (linux).

[Paul Stevens]

CSBwin should work, too. Should it not?
Name a game you want to play and I will
give it a try.

PAul

[ChristopheF]

You're right, Paul, however some of the new dungeons are provided as saved games for DM for PC (dmsave.dat), so you can only play them with the PC version. Until someone makes a save game converter.

For the other dungeons (most of them, named dungeon.dat), you can use the converter script that I made in order to use them with CSBwin. The converter is found in the Miscellaneous File Uploads forum.

[Paul Stevens]

Well, I think my CSBuild can read the PC saved games.
It is supposed to.
Name one.....and I will try it.

[ChristopheF]

That is good! I have not tried yet...

You can try the following dungeons that are available as saved games in the New Dungeons forum:

Poison http://dmweb.free.fr/Forum/read.php?f=7 ... &i=14&t=14

[Paul Stevens]

I just tried poison.

I posted a Poison.rar at

webpages.charter.net/pstevens1

I just played it long enough to find a key
and escape from the mummies. Unfortunately,
I came upon a dead-end with a switch and decided
I had seen enougn to know that it worked.

If anyone is interested, I can post the latest
CSBuild (to translate DM save-games) and a CSBwin
that can play them.

[ChristopheF]

That would be great! That way, we could supply a package with all the dungeons ready to play with CSBwin. Easier than ever!

[PicturesInTheDark]

I would definitely appreciate that - and it would also allow me to give feedback to some of those who worked countless hours on their dungeons ;)

Thanks, guys!

PitD

[beowuuf]

Lol, hey, what happened to mine! Did mine work? : )
*now tries to remember if he included sound on certain puzzles incase peopel ever got sound...)

[Paul Stevens]

beowuuf: I only tried poison.

I put a new Poison.rar at
webpages.charter.net/pstevens1

Ii has CSBuild (converter) CSBwin (runtime) and
DMSAVE.dat and CSBSave.dat as an example of
a dungeon that was successfully converted.
Also graphics.dat and config.txt to make the
whole thing self-contained.

[Paul Stevens]

I should add a note to say:

CSBuild is far from finished......

Please! Report problems. I find that it is sometimes
very hard to get negative feedback. But negative
is much more valuable than positive feedback. Positive
does feel nice.

[ChristopheF]

Here is some negative feedback as you asked :)

Cosmetic: I really don't like the tile graphics used in CSBuild. I find it very hard to read maps with them. I prefer the tiles used in DM Builder. But I understand it is not the most important thing to work on for now, and you could answer me that I just have to change the tiles.bmp file myself...

Another little thing, it would be good to have keyboard shortcuts to change levels: for example page up / page down like in DM Builder.

[Paul Stevens]

Thank you. You are right about the tiles....They are easy
to change. Make some nice ones for me and I will
distribute them along with mine. I think they don't have
to be exactly that size. The size was selected to fit
a 32x32 on 800x600. They do have to be square.

Page-up/page-down is certainly on the list of things
to do. Also is needed a way of selecting targets
graphically. Also is needed a mode in which the lines
are reversed....so the lines show all teleporters/actuators
that have a square as their target. Along with a pop-up
to show targeting information across levels. I say these
things to keep everyone else from saying them. ;-)

[Sphenx]

Posigative comment are disturbing.

[PicturesInTheDark]

Hmm - is there a plan to convert the other dungeons? With sound and the ability of using mouse and keyboard simultaneously my motivation to replay and review those new dungeons is much higher...

[ChristopheF]

You can convert them yourself by using the dungeon converter that you will find under the "Miscellaneous Files Uploads".

[PicturesInTheDark]

Well - tried it on Beastmaster and BennisDungeon I - both of them were converted properly according to the script message, but CSB crashed when using them. Beastmaster took a while (3rd or 4th floor somewhere, on different places), bennis dungeon I already crashed when i was in the hall of champions.

Is there something I am doing wrong (do I have to use elder versions of csb for example? I now use 9.3) or can anyone suggest what might be the reason?

Thank you,

regards Pitd

[Paul Stevens]

Certainly, you should try CSBwin version 9.5. There are
known bugs in 9.4 (and before) that cause crashes.
I appologize for this instability....nothing comes free and
these problems came with the rewrite to allow larger
games.

I have a report from Erik that the dungeon 'poison'
causes version 9.5 to crash. He sent me a recording
so I will be fixing that today. I will post a 9.51 as soon
as possible.

If you can cause crashes with version 9.5 pleas turn on
the recording feature. These things can be fixed.

PAul

[PicturesInTheDark]

Very well Paul. I will give it a try - 9.3 was no problem with poison, I could play it through. I will let you know about the ones I try.

Cheers Pitd

[Paul Stevens]

The dungeon 'poison' specifies floor decoration
number 3 at cell 2(22,18). There ain't no such
decoration. I have added code to check for illegal
floor decorations. You can find the new executable
at:
webpages.charter.net/pstevens1
file CSBexe951.zip.

When an illegal floor decoration is specified it
will show *NO* decoration.

The same problem is likely to occur for wall decorations.
I'll fix them as they arise. I also want to add a check
in CSBuild to warn about these things.

I suggest you get version 9.51 before playing more
converted dungeons.

PAul