FS: Dungeon Master and Chaos Strike back for Fm Towns Marty

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:04 pm

Since I couldn't find any for sale section on this forum I choosed this one. If I'm posting in the wrong forum please remove or move this thread.

Ok, if you collect DM this is it. Not many (none?) outside Japan have ever seen these ones. Even less has own them.

Anyway, this is what I have for sale:
http://hem.fyristorg.com/sprrr/119-1955_IMG.JPG

Loose Dungeon Master CD with case (sorry about the dark picture) and a complete CSB (at least I think it's complete) Jewelcase, instructions and coin. Or wysiwyg.

Only $300 shipped from Sweden. My ebay user is the same as my forum so please check me out if you have any doubt. Please PM me.

Thanks

CC

dimmu--borgir · Post by **dimmu--borgir** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 1:53 pm

Oh, now my username showed up.

/CC

Post by **Gambit37** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 7:54 pm

I've certainly seen pictures of all the Japanese versions of the games, but never actually seen any 'for real'

I am trying to collect as many Dungeon Master games as possible, but definitely not at that price!

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 9:20 pm

only 300.. HA!. I think when I first bought DM it was 20 bucks Canadian or was it 25? I know collectables are supposed to raise in price but this is a bit extreeme. Seems to be like just a cashgrab. I mean just because it's an import.. I see those around here all the time too. (imports in general.. not DM) and often they are second hand and much the same amount as others.. if they are more expensive it's only by a few bucks (probably acounting for the shipping)

I'd like to hear if anyone is really willing to pay this price. That would be quite amusing.

moo

dungeon.master · Post by **dungeon.master** » Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:39 pm

Hello !
Is it the first time this item is on sale ?

bye

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:44 am

@Cow: He's right, they are very difficult to get hold of outside of Japan because they are for Japanese PCs which almost never get exported. Console titles on the other hand are relatively easy to get hold of as imports.

However, $300 is pretty outrageous even taking that into account!

I will have to chase up the london importer again to see if he's had any luck getting me any of these -- I did ask a long time ago but he's probably forgotten!

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:01 am

well, let's put it this way. I personally could not pay that much for anything collectable unless I was certain that I could get more for it.. or if it were made of some precious metals or perhaps if it was something that made money itself.. ie on display or what have you. This particular object.. import or not is little more than a fancifull diversion. It gains nothing major over the others. The differences are really subtle from what I've seen. So really the only reason to collect it is simply to see up close those tiny differences... then put it on a shelf.

Perhaps it's just me.. I mean I've collected coins, I've collected Comics. However, I've never paid very much for them and I've never gotten much in return for them.. even though the potential is there to do so. I just think there is a very very limited number of people who would feel the need to get it.. one of which would be you.. and even you (who has already spent more money on this that I could fathom doing myself) think it's an exorbinant price.

So.. my personal point of view... it seems a little greedy. That's all. The most I can see anyone legitimately paying for either of those is about 80 each. (Again though, I personally wouldn't pay that.. but I can see someone else doing it)

not to offend anyone here.. just my own point of view.

moo

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:33 am

The main reason I wanted to collect (and still want to collect) all the DM stuff I can find is for legacy preservation. I'm certainly not in it to make money from it -- and I wouldn't any way, as I was always the high bidder on ebay for the stuff I really wanted. Who else is gonna pay more?

It's really a way of saying thank you to FTL for a part of my life that I will always have fond memories of. Buying up the stuff was partly for the DM Codex so it's a as complete as possible, but also for the reasons above.

Jardice · Post by **Jardice** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:07 am

Hmm reminds me of the tactics ogre game for the playstation(it a rare find now even though people are willing to buy it).

Not as high as this but the game was pretty close( to say around $145 at max)..what make it bad is that the pSx version came out in 1998.

Well as posted before me someone might buy it...hell people were willing to pay $145 for a game that's not even as old..

dimmu--borgir · Post by **dimmu--borgir** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:02 pm

Before it goes on ebay you will also have this (got it today) included in the price.

http://hem.fyristorg.com/sprrr/Dungeon%201.JPG

/CC

WolfHeart · Post by **WolfHeart** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:03 pm

Values attached to items have nothing to do with what they are "really" worth. I personally would not spend 300.00 for these items pictured here but I feel that he probably has a good chance to get that much or more. I paid 50.00 for an Atari Falcon, software, a 340 meg hard drive, and a CD drive, some old antic and analog mags, cables and mouse and joysticks. I purchased it for my oldest son. I felt I got an excellent deal every thing looked like new. All that was wrong with it was the lack of a monitor. His monitor had quit working within a couple years after he bought it. He could not find any Atari monitors locally and after sending a check to someplace and getting ripped off, he never tried to get another He instead moved to the PC community and boxed up all the Atari stuff and put it in the closet.

Some one offered my son 500.00 for the same stuff I bought for 50.00, he turned it down. Not because it was a bad offere, but because he felt that he would not be able to find another one to enjoy.

Incidently a friend sold a game cart he had for the Atari 2600 on Ebay for 250.00 I laughed because had he asked me what I would have paid it would have said 25.00 maybe. Still another friend paid 500.00 many years back for a Superman comic book that he said was worth alot more! Last but not least, my wife has a baseball card that is listed as being worth 1500.00. She bought it back when she got into collecting baseball cards in a box of cards at Big and Small Lots, ( a chain of stores we have here in Ohio) for 12.00 for the whole bunch new. She still has the card and a few other ones that are worth small amounts from 10.00 to maybe 100.00 tops. she really enjoys showing or telling people about them.

sucinum · Post by **sucinum** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:14 pm

WolfHeart wrote:All that was wrong with it was the lack of a monitor. His monitor had quit working within a couple years after he bought it. He could not find any Atari monitors locally and after sending a check to someplace and getting ripped off, he never tried to get another

you only need 1 cable to equip your atari with a tv...

WolfHeart · Post by **WolfHeart** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 4:29 pm

He had that cable, that is how my son used it till I was able to get an Atari monitor. Which I had owned at one time and got it back from the friend that had it along with a Atari 520 ST that he had in his closet hehe. he had no disk drive for it. On my to do list I want to get a disk drive for the 520 and I want to get an adaptor best electronics has that will allow my son to use his VGA monitor from his PC on the Falcon. I also need to figure out how to get the Atari CD drive working. I asked the guy I got it from about a driver for it or program to make it work and he said that the vendor he puchase the CD drive was suppose to mail it to him and went out of business before doing so.

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:03 pm

Just a side note to address something I find odd.

It's really a way of saying thank you to FTL for a part of my life that I will always have fond memories of

Let me put this a different way to show my perspective on it.

I'm going to pay somebody an exorbinant amount of money in order to thank someone else for bringing happiness to my life

unless you're paying their spouse, siblings or offspring. I highly doubt it will do anything for them

Your Codex itself on the other hand is entirely different. This likley shows them the real value as it's words displaying true thought and emotion.

I agree with community based preservation of the articles and that really is what you are trying to do. I offer my own efforts for the most part free of charge. The only things I plan on ever looking for money over is things that take a lot of time, work and costly materials to produce. Even then I'm unlikley to ask for any large amount of money... but I digress. You can see my point I'm sure.

enough of my rant..

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 7:51 pm

You old cynic you!

You misunderstood me with your first response, your second one was what I was refering to with the 'thank FTL' message.

I realise that probably wasn't clear...

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:43 pm

Games = research? : )

dimmu--borgir · Post by **dimmu--borgir** » Fri Feb 06, 2004 7:50 pm

As someone would care....not...but the games are sold.

/CC

Post by **PaulH** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:23 am

You sold that lot for 300? You should be a an entrepeneur... well done

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 1:50 am

baffles me.. simply baffling..

I suppose if you have the 300 to throw away on a whim.. it's not such a big deal. (shrug) I just think of what I could get with that 300 (more like 350 to me in Canada)...

I have some Official Cowsmanaut Belly button lint.. I'll let it go for $50

(just kidding)

Seriously though, good job managing to find a buyer.

moo

WolfHeart · Post by **WolfHeart** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:10 pm

Well after trying to reply to this thread 3 times and having to delete it because I felt I went to far I will just say this, I find it easy to believe that he collected 300 for the stuff because some people pay what is needed for something that they want that is rare. I find your posts about and to this person more or less insulting. I really think you should read what you are typing. If this was my first visit to here i would have thought the posts were by young children. Sorry if I offend anyone but just my 2 cents.

dimmu--borgir · Post by **dimmu--borgir** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 9:47 pm

You sold that lot for 300?

No I didn't. I'd sell it with a HUGE Fm Towns collection.

You should be a an entrepeneur... well done

Well, I do this for a half of living (was that correct English?) and the same discussion popped up on Lucasforum.com when I offered the Lucasarts Fm Towns grails for huge money. But I managed to sell them for more than I wanted. I am a Trader and I call it capitalism. Buy cheap, sell expensive.

Bye! (forever)

CC

Post by **cowsmanaut** » Sat Feb 07, 2004 10:22 pm

Wolfheart I'm stating my oppinion.. I hate the idea of something of a relatively inexpensive value being sold for an astronomical price. I watch as people arbitratily raise the price of things around me simply because they have less or they can simply pretend and use that to raise the price. I'm not talking old collectibles here either.. It's all about supply and demand. I get that. I know that collectables often go for more money.. I get that too.. and perhaps I've been tainted a bit by things going on around me as I mentioned above.

My only point is some people like to take advantage of that mindset. The push the limits and sometimes in my opinion, go too far. I've been in sales for a large part of my young life and I discovered exactly what the mindset can became for some people.. just how greedy they can get when they discover just what some poor fool will let them get away with. Gas is one very good example right now. The manager hears something in the news and uses that as an excuse to raise the price. The story he'll give you is it's related to the war and we have seizure on some gas import so I have to raise the price. The truth.. we were not buying gas from them at any point and so I'm not really taking any loss but you'll likley accept this as an answer better than "I want more money" And don't tell me they don't because I hear this right from their staff when they aren't at work.

Now I'm not saying this guy is evil.. or a horrible person here. I don't even know the guy. I'm simply stating that I think the amount that he was offering was too much. All of that aside I to congradulated him on finding a buyer. I found it incredible ofcourse. However, he managed to sell it.

At any rate.. I'm going to share my oppinion.. I'm goign to debate.. I'm going to be honest and forward about all of it.. and I'm not likley to back down everytime simply because it might offend one person.. and to be quite honest I expect the same back from everyone. This section is an are for people to feel free to discuss whatever they want and express themselves. You don't have to agree with them.. I don't agree with everything said .. heck sometimes I don't always agree with myself

. However, how else do we challenge our minds and perceptions if not by a solid debate. Who knows.. perhaps you will have something to say that might alter my perspective on something. I know it's happened before. MAny times...

Anyway.. long story short.. My oppinion and I'm free to share it. If you don't like it dissagree with me or ignore me. I'm not being verbaly abusive to anyone so I'm not doing anything wrong.

moo

Jardice · Post by **Jardice** » Sun Feb 08, 2004 4:13 am

Hmm To tell the truth I fail to see how these post would be posted by a child but it doesn't really matter..Of course for a good real example go to any modern game forum like Final Fantasy or warcraft 3.

It's seems though that the person who was selling the games seems to have left this place for good..can't please everyone I suppose although Like Wolfheart said it is easy most of the time to be able to sell rare stuff at a high price.

ok i'm done.

WolfHeart · Post by **WolfHeart** » Wed Feb 11, 2004 6:29 pm

Well, I'll try to cover more than one post with same msg. I agree in part with parts of your msg, the gas gouging is one of my pet peeves as well. I voice my conserns all the time about this type stuff, but when it comes prices asked for games and stuff of this nature I usually don't comment because sometimes my comments would be more wrong than the person's price post. Also on the other post, my point was there that often times children will hammer a poster in an inmature way. Adults do the same, dont get me wrong and sometimes worse. I do see your points though and understand why and what you were saying even if I don't completely agree. The gas price gouging I save for another post hehe