Problem with shooter interval

Pedro · Post by **Pedro** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:05 pm

Hola,

I have a problem to create a time interval between each two shots of shooter (activated with a button). I don't want to use a simple delay option because it also delays the first shot, which, according to my intention, shouldn't be delayed. I tried various variants with doubled button, relay, etc, but nothing worked as I expect.

Anybody could give me some hint? Is it possible to do at all?

P.

George Gilbert · Post by **George Gilbert** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:25 pm

How about having your button activate the shooter and a relay. The relay has a delay and then activates the shooter?

That way you get an immediate shot, and then another shot later. Does that work for you?

Post by **Gambit37** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:46 pm

Is it that you want first the left hole to shoot, then the right? Does RTC work that way -- I haven't done many experiements with shooters so not sure of their behaviour.

Pedro · Post by **Pedro** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:48 pm

George Gilbert wrote:How about having your button activate the shooter and a relay. The relay has a delay and then activates the shooter?

That way you get an immediate shot, and then another shot later. Does that work for you?

From "a military point of view" your hint doesn't work well. My idea is to create a gun to shoot at monsters. Interval is needed to reload a gun, and notice that without this feature it would be a machine gun

which totally spoils my conception.

I think that best solution for this and similar questions would be to add two new options for triggers - enable and disable. In my opinion, it would noticeably extend the engine possibilities. Now we have only "disable self" and there is not possible to enable disabled trigger again.

Gambit37 wrote:Is it that you want first the left hole to shoot, then the right? Does RTC work that way -- I haven't done many experiements with shooters so not sure of their behaviour.

No, I need a single shoot which can be repeat by player only when time >= interval.
Simpler, I need, for example, to limit shot frequency (but not delay it) to 1 per 2 seconds.

copperman · Post by **copperman** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:32 pm

you could use extra relays to disable the switch for a time then re-enable it

Pedro · Post by **Pedro** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:23 pm

copperman wrote:you could use extra relays to disable the switch for a time then re-enable it

Yes, but notice that we haven't implemented these options (disable and enable) in the masterwork of George. "Disable self" isn't sufficient to do it.

P.

copperman · Post by **copperman** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:31 pm

activate/deactive should achive the same thing surely ?

Pedro · Post by **Pedro** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 8:58 pm

copperman wrote:activate/deactive should achive the same thing surely ?

No, it's not the same because "re-activate" genarates a second undesirable event.

Disable of a trigger would cause that such options like toggle, activate or deactivate are off as long as it turns into enabed state.

P.

copperman · Post by **copperman** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:07 pm

could you perhaps hide then show the switch ?

Pedro · Post by **Pedro** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 5:13 pm

copperman wrote:could you perhaps hide then show the switch ?

Interesting idea but it doesn't work. I can hide a button only in design-time and not in run-time (or I don't know how to do it).
I also tried with cloned button and void bitmaps for alternate state - unfortunately, the button can be clicked also when invisible.

P.

Post by **Gambit37** » Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:02 pm

What you need is the ability for one actuator to be able to selectively enable/disable another one.

I did ask for this 3½ years ago but it seems to have got lost in the pile!

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/vie ... 7052#17052

It came up again 2½ years ago and was never followed up:

http://www.dungeon-master.com/forum/vie ... hp?t=20397