my brain is confused. I want to do a tutorial. how? (CSBwin)

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Tue May 24, 2005 3:43 pm

Well, I wanted to make a tutorial for if guests come to my house, I can show them how to play with it. How? I also have a guest preview, where you can't save or descend from level 2. This is in CSBWin. So how should I do this tutorial?
What else am I supposed to type?

zoom · Post by **zoom** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:16 pm

The best way would be to learn a bit of html (hyper text markup language).
Do the TUTORIAL with that.
It is not that difficult, fairly easy with a bit of practice/routine. Maybe you
already know some?(actually you do know some of it, even if you do not know yet!)
The hard part would be to gather the information, divide the tutorial in
logical steps/parts, to leave unnecessary information out and to flawlessly
point out even difficult matters for the average dungeon builder.

Blah blah blah... all theory. Still awake?-/°^°\-
I hope I understood you right in that you´re aiming at doing a csbuild-tutorial for your guests ?
If you wanna show them the game, and how it is played, what it´s all about, i suggest making a recording with csbwin and show that to them instead.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:44 pm

You could do an in-game tutorial simply with text pads on the floor I guess...

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:36 am

Actually, I thought about that, beo. I was trying to record. It went very slow for some odd strange and peculiar reason. I want to make a tutorial of the basic controls, practically a movie of the manual or something like that. It's too confusing with so many DM versions now.
But thanks

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Wed May 25, 2005 9:11 am

Combine them then - make a movie of you going around the dungeon, but have text pads so that it is explaining what you are doing as you are doing it (eg '4 spins me round left' etc or 'keys go into keyholes' etc.
The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Wed May 25, 2005 2:35 pm

actually, I have a recording the screen program that lets me make bubbles. Controls are a bit different for different versions, eg) CSB Win has the 487956 for movement, or the arrows, but the side arrows have different controls. This is the part that is stumping me.
Oh, and try to get this quick b/c I only have a trial version.

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:07 am

beowuuf wrote:Combine them then - make a movie of you going around the dungeon, but have text pads so that it is explaining what you are doing as you are doing it (eg '4 spins me round left' etc or 'keys go into keyholes' etc.
The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle

Actually, I will do that. The screen recorder isn't recording it properly. But...can anyone tell me how to view this movie after I recorded it? Thanks.

Post by **Paul Stevens** » Sun May 29, 2005 1:50 am

can anyone tell me how to view this movie after I recorded it?

Yes. I am sure that most anyone using this forum can
tell you that. Poking about in the forum itself may solve
your problem without even asking!

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Sun May 29, 2005 3:48 pm

The good thing about the playback is that it 'releases' the game once done...so you can have a tutuorial, and it will will break right back into the game where you leave it - perhaps close to a fight or puzzle

Beowuuf, you wrote that. I just read it again, and I don't understand what you're saying.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Mon May 30, 2005 3:07 pm

The playback function isn't a video, it essentially plays the game again itself exactly how you played it and experienced it using the engine. At the end of the playback, it then simply stops, and the game is left running back in the same state as you stopped recording

So, you could have a recording of a dungeon where you walk over a pressure pad saying 'this is how you fight a mummy', y7ou fight a mummy, walk over a pressure pad saying 'now your turn', walk over to the next mummy, and stop recording.
The person watching it would then watch exactly what you did, and then the playback file would stop and the engine would basically start the game beside the mummy - no need for them to restart, the tutorial flows perfectly into the game!

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:22 am

I understand that it is exactly how I saw it, and that's why I decided to do this way. But I still don't understand...

At the end of the playback, it then simply stops, and the game is left running back in the same state as you stopped recording

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue May 31, 2005 7:37 am

The playback stops, releases the mouse, and the game is left running as if you had pressed 'resume' from the dungeon menu.

Post by **Gambit37** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:07 am

You can carry on playing from the point at which the playback stops.

beowuuf · Post by **beowuuf** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:52 am

That is a much better way of putting it

Post by **Gambit37** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:05 pm

I know!

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Tue May 31, 2005 2:35 pm

Oh, so I can quit and still make it recording? Is that what you're saying?

Post by **Gambit37** » Tue May 31, 2005 3:26 pm

No. Read it again:

You can carry on playing from the point at which the playback stops.

Have you actually tried doing it yet? It sounds like you haven't.

The process is something like this:

1) Start a new CSB Win game and set it to record
2) Stop your game at some point - that is, save and quit (this automatically stops it recording) OR stop the recording by unticking the option on the menu
3) Playback your recording -- it will play the game exactly as you just recorded it. (There are instructions on how to playback your recording)
4) When the playback finishes, CONTROL RETURNS TO THE PLAYER and you can carry on playing from the point the recording finished

Make sense now?

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Tue May 31, 2005 11:42 pm

Ok, that is very interesting. I understood the first 3 steps, just not the fourth thing
I have recorded, trying to get Chaos to stop illegal opperationing my game. Never played it back though.
Actually, that inspired me to do something else for my tutorial...something that I was thinking...but I didn't quite like it, now I do.

Seeya

ADDF_Toxic · Post by **ADDF_Toxic** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:10 pm

Aha! Part 1 and 3 finished, just need to do part 2 (I did part 3 first)